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    SnowVix's Avatar
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    Charming Tulip
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Ram's Voice is not much different to any other attack unless the person is iced and a boss won't get iced. Ultravibration is useless for the same reason.
    And in most dungeons the trash is often more dangerous than the bosses

    Moon Flute increases damage by 50% for 15 seconds, then reduces damage by 100% for 15 seconds. It's only going to be useful at the end of a fight or maybe a DPS check.
    This is where buff snapshotting comes in. You dump all your long cooldowns like your primal abilities, including the Tsukuyomi DoT, during the 15 second opener, then you have 15 seconds of not using your 220 potency filler spell.

    Final Sting kills you so probably not a good idea and at least it will cause a damage reduction because of weakness and lost potency while dead.
    which you use at the end of the fight and it doesn't matter
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SnowVix View Post
    This is where buff snapshotting comes in. You dump all your long cooldowns like your primal abilities, including the Tsukuyomi DoT, during the 15 second opener, then you have 15 seconds of. . . .
    I know it would make it more OP, and that isn't the intention- certainly some other changes could be done to keep themes and reasonable 'op' balance (yet fun), but I really hope they would change this skill and diamond back to not do that.

    If I didn't want to play the game I'd not play the game, I don't want / need a skill to do that for me . .XD.
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    Player FusiaRain's Avatar
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    Shoralral Shoral
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    Famfrit
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    Consindering how many things get immunity to status effects etc. So honestly I domt see how it could be op with how things are basically built with immunity to op abilitys
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    I've seen a lot of 6 minute BLU runs of The Burn.
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    Vicious Zvahl
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    Excalibur
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    Machinist Lv 100
    For the umpteenth time, no. That defeats their vision of what the job is. It would also just be a limited version of BLU. People misunderstand what the limitation is. They lock BLU out of current content because it is too powerful.

    Scaling it down to be normal would require an entire rearrangement of its skillset. They'd need to give it a limit break. They'd have to take away White Wind and Blood Drain. They couldn't let it have Aetherial Mimicry etc.

    It'd be like asking to play SMN with different visuals and no summons. Just Ruin and Bio by different names. No thanks.
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    "I thought that my invincible power would hold the world captive, leaving me in a freedom undisturbed. Thus night and day I worked at the chain with huge fires and cruel hard strokes. When at last the work was done and the links were complete and unbreakable, I found that it held me in its grip." - Rabindranath Tagore

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    Leih'to Molkoh
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    Zodiark
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    For the umpteenth time, no. That defeats their vision of what the job is. It would also just be a limited version of BLU. People misunderstand what the limitation is. They lock BLU out of current content because it is too powerful.

    Scaling it down to be normal would require an entire rearrangement of its skillset. They'd need to give it a limit break. They'd have to take away White Wind and Blood Drain. They couldn't let it have Aetherial Mimicry etc.

    It'd be like asking to play SMN with different visuals and no summons. Just Ruin and Bio by different names. No thanks.
    Look, I agree with you on most things you said but....to be honest, if BLU doesn't learn LB after reaching level 80 and beating Seat of Sacrifice, I would be quite disappointed.
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    Vicious Zvahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnix View Post
    Look, I agree with you on most things you said but....to be honest, if BLU doesn't learn LB after reaching level 80 and beating Seat of Sacrifice, I would be quite disappointed.
    Which LB will it learn though, heh. He does so many! The level 4 LB?
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    "I thought that my invincible power would hold the world captive, leaving me in a freedom undisturbed. Thus night and day I worked at the chain with huge fires and cruel hard strokes. When at last the work was done and the links were complete and unbreakable, I found that it held me in its grip." - Rabindranath Tagore

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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Garnix View Post
    Look, I agree with you on most things you said but....to be honest, if BLU doesn't learn LB after reaching level 80 and beating Seat of Sacrifice, I would be quite disappointed.
    Why?
    They already have access to, and can easily clear, content that requires a limit break from regular jobs.
    One of the Alexander raids requires a Tank LB3 and blue didn't get, and doesn't need, an LB to make it through that.

    Why is Seat of Sacrifice now some kind of line in the sand?
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    Tolo Rewd
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    Spriggan
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Why?
    They already have access to, and can easily clear, content that requires a limit break from regular jobs.
    One of the Alexander raids requires a Tank LB3 and blue didn't get, and doesn't need, an LB to make it through that.

    Why is Seat of Sacrifice now some kind of line in the sand?
    Diamondback is literally more powerful than tank LB3, lol.
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    Leih'to Molkoh
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    Zodiark
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Why?
    They already have access to, and can easily clear, content that requires a limit break from regular jobs.
    One of the Alexander raids requires a Tank LB3 and blue didn't get, and doesn't need, an LB to make it through that.

    Why is Seat of Sacrifice now some kind of line in the sand?
    I am not saying they need an LB to be able to beat SoS. I am saying it would be nice to learn LB from the WoL.
    Obviously BLU doesn't need an LB. It doesn't need most of the spells in its kit either. Still, filling the LB gauge and not being able to use it is weird to me.
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