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  1. #31
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    Rosa_Frandlia's Avatar
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    Rosa Frandlia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Con_Moo View Post
    I would suggest gaining Miasma, Bane and Fester from the soon-to-be-defunct Shadowbringers SMN and using Fester as the new Energy Drain. 100 potency with no dots on your target, 200 potency for one dot, 300 potency for two. Would be a major upgrade in DPS life for SCH and gets rid of Energy Drain which is even more underwhelming in Endwalker.
    By the build they had in the media tour, SMN is keeping Fester and Pain Flare. Sorry to kill that idea for you. As for adding bane back, if they do that they should also bring back Aero III on WHM and give AST and Sage an equivalent spell. Aero III was one of the few WHM spells that survived the SB butchering of WHM. The spell I'd love to be back on SCH is eye for an eye so Deployment Tactics could be used on it again.
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    My concern is how distinct its going to be from Sage. did you see larryzuars' video?

    https://youtu.be/EAjjkp49c2s
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  3. #33
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrogen View Post
    My concern is how distinct its going to be from Sage. did you see larryzuars' video?

    https://youtu.be/EAjjkp49c2s
    Video aside, care to elaborate your personal take of why do you think it’s “distinct”?
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    So, here's some suggestions.
    1. Get rid of Dissipation and make it a 2nd charge of Aetherflow. Gets rid of all the issues associated with the skill blocking off your fairy skills.
    2. Make Selene useful again.
      • Split Fey Illumination and Fey Covenant again and give 1 to each fairy. So 15% Heal buff on Eos and 15% mitigation on Selene
      • Make Fey Blessing into either a burst heal or a shield based on which fairy is out
      • Leave Embrace and Whispering Dawn as is because Noct AST has shown Regen vs Shields can't be balanced out between the 2 so let's just not mess with it.
    3. Adjust Seraph a bit
      • Reintroduce Rouse as a Low Level Version of Seraph that enhances all of your fairy healing abilities by 5% (Seraph goes up to 8-10%)
      • Seraphic Illumination will add an addition 5% Heal buff or Mitigation buff, depending on which fairy was out. I.E, if Eos is used, Seraph's Illumination will have a 15% healing buff and 5% Mitigation and Vice Versa.
      • Fey Blessing turns into Consolation when Seraph is out.
    4. Change Aetherpact into an ability that allows us to have both our Fairies out that stack their effects during the duration with a duration based on how much gauge we have available. Think Neutral Sect meets Automaton Queen
    5. Instant cast for Fairy Summons
    6. Add a Slow effect to Art of War reminiscent of Shadowflare's old effect
    7. Add an AoE DoT that stacks with our ST DoT (Do this with all Healers really)

    Is it perfect? No, but it would address several clunky issues that SCH currently has, while trying to deal with some button bloat and making the job feel more synergistic as a whole.
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    Last edited by Silver-Strider; 11-26-2021 at 01:56 PM.

  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Video aside, care to elaborate your personal take of why do you think it’s “distinct”?
    I think they are very similar right now from what I read on paper. They both are barrier healers. The only thing I see that's distinct is the faerie. I'm unsure how barrier will differ from galvanize.
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  6. #36
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    Zeran Moonpaw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    So, here's some suggestions.
    Please don't make such interesting and generally awesome ideas for changes that I know SE will never do for SCH thanks
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    Noah Orih
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    Not that this fixes anything for SCH, but i think it would be clever if SCH's answer to WHM's Holy Stun would be to reintroduce the concept of Bane that also inflicts Toad on enemies.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeran_Moonpaw View Post
    Please don't make such interesting and generally awesome ideas for changes that I know SE will never do for SCH thanks
    NEVER!!!!!
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    Grimoire Mogri
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Not that this fixes anything for SCH, but i think it would be clever if SCH's answer to WHM's Holy Stun would be to reintroduce the concept of Bane that also inflicts Toad on enemies.
    Personally I’d rather have WHM keep its niche there. It’s the only reason it’s better than AST in dungeons. SCH getting Bane back would be sufficient. Save Toad for a role action if needed.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimoire-M View Post
    Save Toad for a role action if needed.
    A role-action that silences, pacifies, and greatly reduces damage dealt (as per Toad) would still remove WHM's AoE stun niche, since it'd already manage all that stun does -- just likely at a much greater duration.
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