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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    That's an awfully restrictive perspective for an MMO and for content that players are required to clear to progress. No, they don't have to play with people they don't want to play with, but it's surely poor manners to censor others who don't meet your standards. And no, queuing for content that allows you to que for it is not considered trolling.
    Kicking people below average who intentionally are making things harder than they need to be isn't restrictive at all. They're required to clear it once and OP already has a level 80, there's no excuse.
    It's not bad manners at all, actually it's behavior endorsed by SE exclusively to solve player disputes in relation to in-game content that require a party, majority rules.

    If it's not trolling to queue up to a level 47 dungeon naked why is it bad manners then to kick said person? I mean if you're allowed to do it simply for the fact that you can do it what's the difference between the two?
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    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    intentionally
    And was he "intentionally" making things harder? Sure doesn't seem so. Seems like he was given one single chance and it seems like he never got the healer's full attention for either wipe.

    There was no dispute either, no debating mentioned, just a quick dismissal without explanation. It's only from OP's honest admissions that it can be perceived that he was under geared.

    You call that trolling?

    And have you ever seen someone que for Aurum Vale naked? I doubt it. Have you ever seen someone doing a lv 69 dungeon in lv 60 gear? Probably if you've played this game very long.
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    Last edited by Drkdays; 11-22-2021 at 06:12 PM.

  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    And was he "intentionally" making things harder? Sure doesn't seem so. Seems like he was given one single chance and it seems like he never got the healer's full attention for either wipe.

    There was no dispute either, no debating mentioned, just a quick dismissal without explanation. It's only from OP's honest admissions that it can be perceived that he was under geared.

    You call that trolling?
    It was lodestone that did tells us this, not op's word.
    He did hid it in his little story, and that's why he did quickly diaspeared a bit after someone pointed it out.

    This one right there :

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    You were almost certainly kicked for having bad gear while blaming the healer for being unable to keep you alive. The gear you're currently wearing on your Lodestone isn't even that great at level 60, much less the 69 dungeon which hits fairly hard.

    For comparison, the Outriders Coat has 474 defense. The Xenobian Surcoat, which drops in that dungeon, has 868 defense. The armor from the previous dungeon has 739 defense.
    So dont try to say that op was honest about his undergear, he did not.
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    Last edited by Izscha; 11-22-2021 at 06:14 PM.

  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izscha View Post
    It was lodestone that did tells us this, not op's word.
    He did hid it in his little story, and that's why he did quickly diaspeared a bit after someone pointed it out.
    I wouldn't hang out either if people called me a failure for using the wrong accessories and that I deserved to be kicked. But, to him I say what has been said many times by many skilled players.

    Gear < skill. Too bad he didn't get the chance to try.
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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    And was he "intentionally" making things harder? Sure doesn't seem so. Seems like he was given one single chance and it seems like he never got the healer's full attention for either wipe.

    There was no dispute either, no debating mentioned, just a quick dismissal without explanation. It's only from OP's honest admissions that it can be perceived that he was under geared.

    You call that trolling?

    And have you ever seen someone que for Aurum Vale naked? I doubt it. Have you ever seen someone doing a lv 69 dungeon in lv 60 gear? Probably if you've played this game very long.
    You and I both know SE deliberates every action they take so if they allow you to do something obviously it's a justified action including kicking someone without saying anything.

    I'm just trying to understand your mindset here, if the only thing that matters is that SE allows it and queuing up for any of the dungeons leading up to Castrum & Praetorium naked isn't trolling, how can it be rude to kick them let alone anyone? I mean SE allows these unjustified kicks to happen.

    Yes I have seen people queue for these dungeons naked nothing wrong with that though since SE allows it. SE also allowed us to kick that person.
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    Last edited by Nethereal; 11-22-2021 at 06:21 PM.

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    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    There was no dispute either, no debating mentioned, just a quick dismissal without explanation. It's only from OP's honest admissions that it can be perceived that he was under geared.
    I haven't seen reaching like this since Inspector Gadget
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  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    I wouldn't hang out either if people called me a failure for using the wrong accessories and that I deserved to be kicked. But, to him I say what has been said many times by many skilled players.

    Gear < skill. Too bad he didn't get the chance to try.
    It wasn't even the acc that were wrong, the armor he got from his left stuff was way too low.
    And that's funny that you talk about skill, while it's pretty obvious that the op has neither skill nor the gear, and that's not a great combo if you ask me.
    The dude is talking that he need to react to trashs doing damage and it was too fast, you pop ur CD shortly before everything hits you, not in the middle of it, just that information right there do show that he's not a skilled tank.
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  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    And have you ever seen someone que for Aurum Vale naked? I doubt it. Have you ever seen someone doing a lv 69 dungeon in lv 60 gear? Probably if you've played this game very long.
    Again.

    And yes, SE allows kicking actions and, just as OP says, you can report being kicked for nefarious reasons, too.
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  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izscha View Post
    It wasn't even the acc that were wrong, the armor he got from his left stuff was way too low.
    And that's funny that you talk about skill, while it's pretty obvious that the op has neither skill nor the gear, and that's not a great combo if you ask me.
    The dude is talking that he need to react to trashs doing damage and it was too fast, you pop ur CD shortly before everything hits you, not in the middle of it, just that information right there do show that he's not a skilled tank.
    Guess we'll never know since he's apparently wisely abandoned this thread, but certainly he wasn't given much if a chance to show whether he had the skill to make up for his lack of gear since the main problem he cited was a lack of support from heals.
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  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    Again.

    And yes, SE allows kicking actions and, just as OP says, you can report being kicked for nefarious reasons, too.
    But SE allows you to kick people, just like it allows you to queue up naked to every dungeon below level 50. How can something that SE allows be nefarious? I'm just lost here.
    The only thing that matters is that SE allows it yet what they're allowing is nefarious?
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    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
    Quote Originally Posted by Someone 2
    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

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