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  1. #181
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    Kantis Sagi
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Being completely disinterested in learning from this again shows that you're no better than the healer in the story tbh. Are you forgetting the simple fact that your side of the story doesn't add up correctly? It's this that has people filling in the gaps themselves. Again, please don't take this as me trying to defend the healer, my impression is that this is just a case of 'when bads collide'. Take that as you will.

    Lastly, I think you are misunderstanding the definition, purpose and inevitable usage of a discussion forum.
    this is one of those "you had to be there" sort of moments. I've been on both sides of this and maybe if I was more vocal about this, I'd have joined the forums years ago. This stuff happens. There's nothing I need to learn about what I need to do as I am doing it. We all get a spot of trouble, rare, I'm sure but it happens.
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  2. #182
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    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Deviously Enchanted
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Necrogen View Post
    this is one of those "you had to be there" sort of moments. I've been on both sides of this and maybe if I was more vocal about this, I'd have joined the forums years ago. This stuff happens. There's nothing I need to learn about what I need to do as I am doing it. We all get a spot of trouble, rare, I'm sure but it happens.
    It's really not. You just aren't being honest. The fact you think you need to learn nothing from this situation is astonishing.

    If anything the one thing you should take away from this is that wearing level 60 gear for the wrong class in a level 69 dungeon is not acceptable.

    Just because a team can carry your laziness does not make it so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Someone
    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

  3. #183
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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Necrogen View Post
    I came back and saw some petty users here misrepresenting what had happened and commented on it.
    Misrepresenting eh? Let's see now...

    Quote Originally Posted by Necrogen View Post
    I told you on both encounters, I began by using the AOE attack as my tank class. Before I could mitigate damage and or attack again I was killed. I saw the healer not heal at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Necrogen View Post
    You have to put yourself in the situation. The first mob running in with an attack and before you even can do the next action, you die because you took a lot of damage. You're going to sit there and say "well how come you didn't react within a half press of a button?"
    Quote Originally Posted by Necrogen View Post
    You didnt read the many times i clarified the situation. This situation happened in the span of 2 seconds. A half button press and stubborn team mates.
    Quote Originally Posted by Necrogen View Post
    Mind you, it wasnt 3 mobs or groups. It was 3 dudes. Not 3 sets of 3 or 4 guys. Just 3. In the span of 2 seconds, my life gets melted, healer was just negligent. Im glad im not crazy and many others here understand that healers can just be bad.
    Ok cool. We're certain you died in 2 seconds. Basically a GCD.

    But wait, what's this.

    https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Cure_II

    Oh. Cure II takes..... 2 seconds to cast.

    In your own words:

    Quote Originally Posted by Necrogen View Post
    In the span of a half button press? No, sorry, i havent mastered hyperspeed.
    You don't think it's reasonable to expect you to have gotten an instant cast oGCD cooldown off but you expect some random duty roulette healer to not only be able to react in time, but also manage to stop moving and fire off a 2 second cast heal in the same timeframe?

    But lets carry on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Necrogen View Post
    Let's get real here. This whole situation happened within like 2 minutes.
    Riddle me this, doesn't 5 minutes have to have passed within the duty before anyone can initiate a vote kick? By all means correct me if I'm wrong on this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Necrogen View Post
    this is one of those "you had to be there" sort of moments. I've been on both sides of this and maybe if I was more vocal about this, I'd have joined the forums years ago. This stuff happens. There's nothing I need to learn about what I need to do as I am doing it. We all get a spot of trouble, rare, I'm sure but it happens.
    If you're not interested in learning pointers to help make tanking these dungeons smoother with the inevitable sleepy/afk healer, then at least consider not leaning so heavily on hyperbole and exaggerations to get your point across. This should have been another footnote in the tales from the DF thread, instead you ballooned it into some ugly monstrosity with your claims.
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  4. #184
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    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Hell I just checked your profile, you're level 79 in full augmented Scaeven gear you literally learned nothing.

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    Last edited by Nethereal; 11-26-2021 at 10:05 AM.

  5. #185
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    Kantis Sagi
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Yes, I'm not interested in pointers. Thanks. What I need to do as a tank is being done.
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  6. #186
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    Izscha Wyvern
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Nah that's a lie, your words alone do show that you're a terrible tank too.
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  7. #187
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    At this point, the OP is either a troll who is trying to go a second round and failing or someone who likes pointless arguments and failing to start a second round. :B
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  8. #188
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    Hell I just checked your profile, you're level 79 in full augmented Scaeven gear you literally learned nothing.

    If they are leveling through Bozja or Shadowbringers beast trible quests then I could see why they might not feel like upgrading their gear. Heck, I did the same thing with some of my jobs while leveling. But if they are going into roulettes and dungeons like that and getting lvl 78+ duties...oof. Those poor healers.
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  9. #189
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    Kantis Sagi
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    If they are leveling through Bozja or Shadowbringers beast trible quests then I could see why they might not feel like upgrading their gear. Heck, I did the same thing with some of my jobs while leveling. But if they are going into roulettes and dungeons like that and getting lvl 78+ duties...oof. Those poor healers.
    At this point, I'm just making my ignore list bigger. People here are missing the overall point and just want to troll.
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  10. #190
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    Coeurl
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    What I don’t understand is OP said many pages back that he finished the dungeon and it was all fine. He said he isn’t looking for pointers/tips and he’s tanking just fine. Why don’t you guys lay off and find something better to do with your time than continuing to harass this poor guy.

    All he did was vent a little frustration like we all do at times. Rather right or wrong, you vets are being so nasty and cruel. Leave this guy alone and let him have fun and learn.

    You vets should all be ashamed.

    P.S. OP I am so sorry you have been treated this way. These few bad apples aren’t a representation on most of the ffxiv community I assure you. You didn’t ask for peoples tips but they just went in on you. Disgusting. If I were you I’d stop responding because the more you respond the more they will keep going. Just let this thread die. Happy gaming OP.
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