Baffling behavior

[Necrogen]

It's quite a bit more than 40 to be honest

Sometimes a bit of introspection is the best path to self improvement. Even if you weren't the root cause of the issue, there's generally always something you can do better to help avoid the issue in the future. Many suggestions have been made that'll long outlast your new gear such as hitting a cooldown just before you park the pull to make that initial damage spike more manageable when you inevitably run into more bad healers further down the line.

I'm thinking were ships passing in the night here.

I'm not asking for suggestions. I'm not asking for argument. This post was made a while back and people here are arguing with one another about the circumstances. I'm not even sure why people can't fathom bad playstyles yet can use that same logic to scorn others. too many people are too invested in coming up with a "head canon" of what had happened and more often than not, its petty.

Again, The point of the thread was to just say I had a team that didn't work well. its not a big deal.

[Nethereal]

I'm thinking were ships passing in the night here.

I'm not asking for suggestions. I'm not asking for argument. This post was made a while back and people here are arguing with one another about the circumstances. I'm not even sure why people can't fathom bad playstyles yet can use that same logic to scorn others. too many people are too invested in coming up with a "head canon" of what had happened and more often than not, its petty.

Again, The point of the thread was to just say I had a team that didn't work well. its not a big deal.

If you're being honest with this post you need some introspection.

Your initial post was uninformative about a situation many people commonly see, it's a very argumentative topic, especially when one party presumably isn't presenting the full truth of the situation.
Also you were very combative with your continuing posts so it's hard for anyone (including yourself unless you're being intellectually dishonest) to believe you weren't looking for an argument.
You still also haven't given us all the information in relation to the situation.
You also can't talk about bad playstyles when you're wearing level 60 gear in a level 69 dungeon, once again what Ilevel were you when you did that run?

If it wasn't a big deal you would've let it die.

That's the thing, I'm not looking for anything. I'm just commenting on the pettiness. It was all good the night it happened. I shrugged it off, requeued and had a better team. NBD.

That's simply intellectually dishonest and you know it, if you weren't looking for anything you wouldn't have made the original post to begin with.

[Necrogen]

If you're being honest with this post you need some introspection.

Your initial post was uninformative about a situation many people commonly see, it's a very argumentative topic, especially when one party presumably isn't presenting the full truth of the situation.
Also you were very combative with your continuing posts so it's hard for anyone (including yourself unless you're being intellectually dishonest) to believe you weren't looking for an argument.
You still also haven't given us all the information in relation to the situation.
You also can't talk about bad playstyles when you're wearing level 60 gear in a level 69 dungeon, once again what Ilevel were you when you did that run?

If it wasn't a big deal you would've let it die.



That's simply intellectually dishonest and you know it, if you weren't looking for anything you wouldn't have made the original post to begin with.

I can make my original post how I please. I did let it die. I came back and saw some petty users here misrepresenting what had happened and commented on it. I clearly said even THAT day that this was just bringing up a time I had a bad team and we had a bad time.

[Nethereal]

I can make my original post how I please. I did let it die. I came back and saw some petty users here misrepresenting what had happened and commented on it. I clearly said even THAT day that this was just bringing up a time I had a bad team and we had a bad time.

If you can't even be honest with yourself why should anyone believe you?

[Sebazy]

I'm thinking were ships passing in the night here.

I'm not asking for suggestions. I'm not asking for argument. This post was made a while back and people here are arguing with one another about the circumstances. I'm not even sure why people can't fathom bad playstyles yet can use that same logic to scorn others. too many people are too invested in coming up with a "head canon" of what had happened and more often than not, its petty.

Again, The point of the thread was to just say I had a team that didn't work well. its not a big deal.

Being completely disinterested in learning from this again shows that you're no better than the healer in the story tbh. Are you forgetting the simple fact that your side of the story doesn't add up correctly? It's this that has people filling in the gaps themselves. Again, please don't take this as me trying to defend the healer, my impression is that this is just a case of 'when bads collide'. Take that as you will.

Lastly, I think you are misunderstanding the definition, purpose and inevitable usage of a discussion forum.

[Necrogen]

Being completely disinterested in learning from this again shows that you're no better than the healer in the story tbh. Are you forgetting the simple fact that your side of the story doesn't add up correctly? It's this that has people filling in the gaps themselves. Again, please don't take this as me trying to defend the healer, my impression is that this is just a case of 'when bads collide'. Take that as you will.

Lastly, I think you are misunderstanding the definition, purpose and inevitable usage of a discussion forum.

this is one of those "you had to be there" sort of moments. I've been on both sides of this and maybe if I was more vocal about this, I'd have joined the forums years ago. This stuff happens. There's nothing I need to learn about what I need to do as I am doing it. We all get a spot of trouble, rare, I'm sure but it happens.

[Nethereal]

this is one of those "you had to be there" sort of moments. I've been on both sides of this and maybe if I was more vocal about this, I'd have joined the forums years ago. This stuff happens. There's nothing I need to learn about what I need to do as I am doing it. We all get a spot of trouble, rare, I'm sure but it happens.

It's really not. You just aren't being honest. The fact you think you need to learn nothing from this situation is astonishing.

If anything the one thing you should take away from this is that wearing level 60 gear for the wrong class in a level 69 dungeon is not acceptable.

Just because a team can carry your laziness does not make it so.

[Sebazy]

I came back and saw some petty users here misrepresenting what had happened and commented on it.

Misrepresenting eh? Let's see now...

I told you on both encounters, I began by using the AOE attack as my tank class. Before I could mitigate damage and or attack again I was killed. I saw the healer not heal at all.

You have to put yourself in the situation. The first mob running in with an attack and before you even can do the next action, you die because you took a lot of damage. You're going to sit there and say "well how come you didn't react within a half press of a button?"

You didnt read the many times i clarified the situation. This situation happened in the span of 2 seconds. A half button press and stubborn team mates.

Mind you, it wasnt 3 mobs or groups. It was 3 dudes. Not 3 sets of 3 or 4 guys. Just 3. In the span of 2 seconds, my life gets melted, healer was just negligent. Im glad im not crazy and many others here understand that healers can just be bad.

Ok cool. We're certain you died in 2 seconds. Basically a GCD.

But wait, what's this.

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Cure_II

Oh. Cure II takes..... 2 seconds to cast.

In your own words:

In the span of a half button press? No, sorry, i havent mastered hyperspeed.

You don't think it's reasonable to expect you to have gotten an instant cast oGCD cooldown off but you expect some random duty roulette healer to not only be able to react in time, but also manage to stop moving and fire off a 2 second cast heal in the same timeframe?

But lets carry on.

Let's get real here. This whole situation happened within like 2 minutes.

Riddle me this, doesn't 5 minutes have to have passed within the duty before anyone can initiate a vote kick? By all means correct me if I'm wrong on this one.

this is one of those "you had to be there" sort of moments. I've been on both sides of this and maybe if I was more vocal about this, I'd have joined the forums years ago. This stuff happens. There's nothing I need to learn about what I need to do as I am doing it. We all get a spot of trouble, rare, I'm sure but it happens.

If you're not interested in learning pointers to help make tanking these dungeons smoother with the inevitable sleepy/afk healer, then at least consider not leaning so heavily on hyperbole and exaggerations to get your point across. This should have been another footnote in the tales from the DF thread, instead you ballooned it into some ugly monstrosity with your claims.

[Necrogen]

Yes, I'm not interested in pointers. Thanks. What I need to do as a tank is being done.

[Drkdays]

I'm thinking were ships passing in the night here.

I'm not asking for suggestions. I'm not asking for argument. This post was made a while back and people here are arguing with one another about the circumstances. I'm not even sure why people can't fathom bad playstyles yet can use that same logic to scorn others. too many people are too invested in coming up with a "head canon" of what had happened and more often than not, its petty.

Again, The point of the thread was to just say I had a team that didn't work well. its not a big deal.

Except my opinion is OP's opinion. How's about that : O

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