Baffling behavior

[Drkdays]

Ya'll sound like high schoolers laughing at dumb jokes at your locker between classes.

No it's not trolling to disagree with you (I feel like I have to say that a lot and it makes me fear for humanity)

Yes, tank was under geared. You don't have to keep pointing it out each time like it's a game changing revelation, we know.

Yes, the tank was clearly struggling and new (to tanking,at least), this is not grounds to kick him. Please refer to recently updated ToS.

No running in the halls!

Again, based on everything op said, the group made little effort to even try going forward with him, especially the healer if what he says is true (which I assume, since there's no way to know otherwise.)

Which is why I brought up the double standards in healing. I'm continually reading from healers that they want to heal but can't because it's to easy to top off and maintain players, yet this healer seems to have demonstrated the slippery slope healers are on by apparently deciding that ultimately dps and speed were more important than healing,as demonstrated by racing ahead of the tank causing his first death and, by the tanks word, spending too much time dpsing when healing was needed, and finally agreeing to kick an under geared tank in favor of a potentially more geared tank to make healing and dpsing easier and the run faster. The moment the team faced adversity, they ruthlessly and wordlesly culled the tank. Bad form.

They had the right to vote kick him, same as any party has the right to vote kick anyone, and OP has the right to contend it.

[Nethereal]

Yes, the tank was clearly struggling and new, this is not grounds to kick him. Please refer to recently updated ToS.

I'm still lost SE allows anyone to kick anyone for any reason, that fact alone is grounds alone to kick anyone for any or no reason, because SE allows it. If it was against ToS they wouldn't allow it.

Am I missing something here? I mean at this point who cares about OP how could SE allow him to get kicked OP did nothing wrong OP was allowed in the dungeon.

[Drkdays]

I'm still lost SE allows anyone to kick anyone for any reason, that fact alone is grounds alone to kick anyone for any or no reason, because SE allows it. If it was against ToS they wouldn't allow it.

Am I missing something here?

Yes, you are.

[Nethereal]

Yes, you are.

Sorry I had to update my previous post because this is all so confusing. Can you review it again?

[Drkdays]

Sorry I had to update my previous post because this is all so confusing. Can you review it again?

Well, it can be simply explained by refering to your tag there. Actually you DO have to be mindful of other players in 14. You can't just baselessly boot other players for your own, personal reasons. You have to be able to justify it if the person your group kicks feels offended enough to complain to a GM, and according to the recent ToS updates, discriminating against another player based on play style, even very poor play style, is a big no no, which is essentially what happened to OP.

[Nethereal]

Well, it can be simply explained by refering to your tag there. Actually you DO have to be mindful of other players in 14. You can't just baselessly boot other players for your own, personal reasons. You have to be able to justify it if the person your group kicks feels offended enough to complain to a GM, and according to the recent ToS updates, discriminating against another player based on play style, even very poor play style, is a big no no, which is essentially what happened to OP.

Interesting you have to be mindful of your fellow players. Very good, I understand now thank you.

My friend says it's the difference between being fitting & proper.

[LittleImp]

Well, it can be simply explained by refering to your tag there. Actually you DO have to be mindful of other players in 14. You can't just baselessly boot other players for your own, personal reasons. You have to be able to justify it if the person your group kicks feels offended enough to complain to a GM, and according to the recent ToS updates, discriminating against another player based on play style, even very poor play style, is a big no no, which is essentially what happened to OP.

Based on OPs pattern of behavior throughout the entire arc of the situation, it's not hard to make inferences about the nature of the exchange he had with his party prior to his dismissal. Seeking emotional validation over a bad dungeon run, particularly one where any reasonable person would recognize they were underprepared, is not the type of behavior an emotionally stable adult engages in. The very existence of this post implies a strong emotional attachment to the situation that the OP can't let go of.

OP's replies throughout this thread have contained needless aggression towards anyone challenging his narrative. Don't you think it reasonable to infer he probably reacted similarly towards the people who challenged him in the dungeon itself?

Even in OP's biased recounting of events, you can plainly see inklings of his tone and the way he was thinking about and treating his team-mates.

He responds back to me genuinely clueless. And I told him I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're not clueless you're just not listening. He carried on to defend the fact that he was genuinely clueless. I facepalmed... There are some dumb people that play this game... Even after 7 years. He actually blamed the Creator for why he thinks DPS is necessary for a healer class... I still don't buy it.

OP was probably dismissed for harassment, in addition to his obstructive gameplay.

[Necrogen]

Based on OPs pattern of behavior throughout the entire arc of the situation, it's not hard to make inferences about the nature of the exchange he had with his party prior to his dismissal. Seeking emotional validation over a bad dungeon run, particularly one where any reasonable person would recognize they were underprepared, is not the type of behavior an emotionally stable adult engages in. The very existence of this post implies a strong emotional attachment to the situation that the OP can't let go of.

OP's replies throughout this thread have contained needless aggression towards anyone challenging his narrative. Don't you think it reasonable to infer he probably reacted similarly towards the people who challenged him in the dungeon itself?

Even in OP's biased recounting of events, you can plainly see inklings of his tone and the way he was thinking about and treating his team-mates.



OP was probably dismissed for harassment, in addition to his obstructive gameplay.

i didn't think this thread would blow up as much as it did. I will tell you that whatever narrative you're drawing up is of no consequence to me. I know what happened as I was there. I'm not asking for validation as some of you guys are accusing me of. I also...clearly explained what had happened and what the point of the thread was. anything you're coming up with is just pettiness with the intent of misrepresenting what was going on.