Baffling behavior

[Lexis]

Healer fell asleep that second pull?

These double standards kill me.

"Healers just want to heal! Game doesn't give heals anything to do! Even low level dungeons are nothing but downtime. They must think all healers are knuckleheads! We dps 90% of every pull!"

*Tank dies*

"He had the item level but his trinkets were wrong. It wasn't the healer's fault. He should pulled more. he shoulda pulled less. He didn't use rampart, of course he died every pull."

Conclusion: Healer can do no wrong in FF14.

/facepalm.

I tried. You're not even reading the few sentences I typed out. I give up. Believe what you will. :/

[Drkdays]

/facepalm.

I tried. You're not even reading the few sentences I typed out. I give up. Believe what you will. :/

Yes I did. I'm not illiterate, I just think you're wrong. From everything I've read, the healer dropped the ball and blamed the tank. Tank blaming is way easier than healer blaming because the tank already has so much responsibility. If the tank dies, he was too weak, or he pulled badly, or he didn't use C/Ds, or he failed mechanics, etc... it could never be the healer's fault, right? Healer couldn't have known to use shields, or hots, or aoe stun, or even rescue. It was just the tank's failure.

For the first death, sure, a simple mistake. They all ran ahead and the tank floundered. Np, just as he said. It happens. But that second death? When the healer has had a chance to view gear, and plan ahead at least a bit, and he still died?

C'mon now. Even the wrong accessories have vitality on them.

[Lexis]

Yes I did. I'm not illiterate, I just think you're wrong. From everything I've read, the healer dropped the ball and blamed the tank. Tank blaming is way easier than healer blaming because the tank already has so much responsibility. If the tank dies, he was too weak, or he pulled badly, or he didn't use C/Ds, or he failed mechanics, etc... it could never be the healer's fault, right? Healer couldn't have known to use shields, or hots, or aoe stun, or even rescue. It was just the tank's failure.

For the first death, sure, a simple mistake. They all ran ahead and the tank floundered. Np, just as he said, but that second death? When the healer has had a chance to view gear, and plan ahead at least a bit, and he still died?

C'mon now. Even the wrong accessories have vitality on them.

Except, from the OP'S OWN ACCOUNT, they died in 2 seconds (I'm personally inclined to believed it was more like 4-5). The tank also didn't pop any mitigation going into the pull, knowing full well how quickly they would die as they had previously witnessed in the initial snafu of miscommunication. And after all that, instead of apologizing for being Severely Undergeared for the content they just queued for and knowingly making everyone miserable in doing so, they went ahead and berated the healer for 'not healing'.

Yes, the healer could have pre-cast healing and spammed cure II (or the AST/SCH equivalent) instead of trying to sneak in a DPS spell, but at this point it's glaringly obvious that the primary issue here is the tank. Why does it fall on the healer to not only pick up his slack but also deal with the condescending remarks? This is where 'dungeon etiquette' comes in: Don't make people carry you and especially don't throw a fit when they decline to do so.

[Seera1024]

Yes I did. I'm not illiterate, I just think you're wrong. From everything I've read, the healer dropped the ball and blamed the tank. Tank blaming is way easier than healer blaming because the tank already has so much responsibility. If the tank dies, he was too weak, or he pulled badly, or he didn't use C/Ds, or he failed mechanics, etc... it could never be the healer's fault, right? Healer couldn't have known to use shields, or hots, or aoe stun, or even rescue. It was just the tank's failure.

For the first death, sure, a simple mistake. They all ran ahead and the tank floundered. Np, just as he said. It happens. But that second death? When the healer has had a chance to view gear, and plan ahead at least a bit, and he still died?

C'mon now. Even the wrong accessories have vitality on them.

Could it be you know both parties' fault?

The OP was clearly undergeared. That's on the OP for not making sure he was properly geared and if he truly hadn't noticed, should have been more apologetic about it - based on replies, I don't think he was apologetic or taking any responsibility for why things happened the way they did.

The healer should have stuck with the tank like glue after the first wipe if the OP truly was dropping in "2 seconds"

Without having the chat, it's hard to say who has the most fault as attitudes towards things can make someone who wouldn't be as much at fault more at fault by making a mountain out of a molehill.

The fact that the OP hasn't even acknowledged that he was partly to blame for how things went down due to him being under-geared and how he's responded to players pointing that out, leads me to believe that possibly the OP has more blame than the healer in this instance. But everyone has their breaking point and for the OP maybe being kicked was his and he was fine in his replies in game. Without the chat, it's a he said, she said.