Baffling behavior

[KageTokage]

I think I misinterpreted something, but that group definitely was the problem if they're just assuming the tank is going to pull big and leaving them behind, and still moreso if they're running ahead into the second room without the tank leading the way given how a lot of the trash pulls in Castrum Abania have a huge aggro radius and attack the moment you set foot in specific rooms.

[Necrogen]

Sounds like the group wanted to pull more than one pack. Next time instead of complaining about heals I recommend pulling more.

I'm astounded that you read that whole thing and still did not grasp the context of the situation. I think you just skimmed it just to respond. I suggest that you reread it and understand what had happened.

[CaptainFishSticks]

Healer was either over-confident and it bit them in the rear, and they're doubling down, or just straight-up refusing to do the role they signed up for just for the sake of a fast queue and what they feel like is easy EXP.

[Nanchi]

Don't even try to post stories like these on the forums, you'll have absolute banger posts coming at you saying "nAY, it is you that is wrong! Because tank is supposed to be this and that yada yada."
People are being so petty nowadays, it has to be my way or the highway.

[BaconBits]

Send me these DPS-happy healers, I'll gladly take them off your hands. Because I'm so sick and tired of seeing white mages that refuse to use anything other than cure 1 and Medica 2 spam at level 80, scholars that hoard Aetherflow and ignore their fairy cooldowns while relying solely on Adloquium and Physick, and Astro's that either follow in white mage's footsteps by spamming diurnal Aspected Helios and Benefic 1, or Nocturnal Aspected Helios which just overwrites their own shields or doesn't even apply them because no damage has gone out. All while not even using the myriad of FREE abilities at their disposal or understanding the main mechanic of their job.

And because a sizeable amount of this community don't actually know how healers even work, they'll congratulate whoever just spammed their aoe heal the most and blows their entire wad of cooldowns on a minor scratch over the one that heals when the party needs it and picks up the slack when Captain Cure inevitably bites the dust to some mechanic or avoidable aoe. The only job that's more thankless than being a halfway decent healer is being a Rez Mage in an Alliance Raid.

And before anyone tries to accuse me of being some "tryhard sweaty elitist", I spend more time G-Posing in random areas than I do playing the game, and I tend to afk in Gridania on top of the light poles. I'm casual af.

[Lexis]

I've read the OP's post twice now and still don't understand the point they're trying to make.

Regarding the first death, the group takes the majority of the blame for not paying attention and realizing the tank has stopped, and if they went ahead and pulled the next pack, they could have just brought it back to the tank, although OP also fails his perception check (for my fellow D&D nerds out there) and could have just as easily followed the group that clearly ran ahead rather than stay back to sulk and die. Sounds like it was just a big misunderstanding though with no real harm done, so let's move on to the confusing part.

So we're doing single pulls, fighting 3 mobs, and the healer is DPSing. This seems to boggles OP's mind despite being completely normal behavior. Very little healing should be needed when doing single pulls, so you bet your shiny tank bum the healer is going to help dps the mobs down. If you want your healer to focus primarily on healing, give them something to heal and do bigger pulls.

So the tank, at this point, begins berating the healer and then the 2 DPS die? On a single pull of 3 mobs? How?! Did you not have aggro anymore? Even then, I doubt it would have been enough to kill both the DPS before either you or the healer can react. Did you die? If so..
How?! It's a 3 mob pull, they should have died before you even take enough damage to bite the dust, especially with the healer DPSing. Something doesn't add up here.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

Im unsure if its the witching hour when I get on but I have had already a few groups in my lvl 69 dungeon where they are just irritable. As a tank, i am supposed to engage correct? stance is up, i use my AoE attack and then either continue attacking and or mitigate damage. sounds simple correct?

My team leaves out of range...full well seeing me stop. I die due to no heals. They explain that they believed i was pulling more. I said no problem. its okay. how do we get to the next batch and still die? we all stopped and I observe my healer doing DPS...on 3 peeps...

I suggested my healer should heal. as I'm typing the two DPS die. i say...my man...just hit the heal button. The DPS whom died ...defends the healer? the one who isn't doing his job? its like im in the twilight zone here. how are they getting mad at me for suggesting the healer do the one thing they need to do? "just play the game" they said. I respond "...we can't...we're dying...at the second mob..." They did a vote kick..which in itself was a favor to me. I can't stand that sort of ignorance. Needless to say I reported those cross server users. It's just baffling to me how people act this way.

Second point, I'm unsure how people believe its okay to focus DPS while the team needs heals. I don't mean like top them off from a scratch, I mean, were at 10% where are you on this? I believe many MANY people are mislead that DPS is a big priority to a healer when healing needs to be done. I'm told the creator is to blame but I don't buy it. Its one thing if one says "DO DPS, it saves 10 seconds" but its another when you're casting DMG spells and see people die. I main SCH and I've been in tough spots where I'm healing with no downtime.

It's one thing to DPS as a healer when you don't need to heal. But your priority is still healing because you are a HEALER. I think players in this game forget this sometimes.

I am seeing more and more wipes due to healers not...healing.

[Liam_Harper]

Darn, I was late with my inb4; people already think OP is in the wrong!

We just don't know. We're only getting the side of the story from someone who is frustrated over a kick and hearing none of the story from the side of 3 other people who felt that kick was justified. Especially considering even the dps who died are on the healers side.

For all we know, the OP stopped at a single pack, while the group expected 2-3. They pulled more next time, did it badly, some dps died to stray mobs, the healer was trying to Holy stun the pack and couldn't react in time, the OP immediately starts berating the healer. Obviously I could be completely off the mark. But with random stories on the forum you just don't know. After all, very few people who act unreasonably go onto the forums and write a thread about how they played badly and were kicked for good reason.

[Mimilu]

Reading this and looking at your character's GNB level and gear, I have to wonder a few things about the situation:
-Did you use your cooldowns properly? In XIV, especially in dungeons, knowing how to rotate through your cooldowns is very important to prosper as a tank. Unless you know a big hit is coming and the ability in question won't be off cooldown for it, you should be rotating through your tanking cooldowns when they're needed.
-Is your gear maybe too low level (you're currently level 69 wearing the level 60 gear you get from the GNB quest)?

And something important to note about healer culture in XIV; In XIV the fights are so scripted the need to keep someone at 100% HP at all times incase of random damage-spikes just isn't a thing. A veteran healer will generally heal you when they think you won't survive the next hit. This extends to dungeons as well.

[Jennah]

How were the DPS the first to die? What was attacking them? That first pack - the only one you mention fighting - doesn't really have AoE of any kind... did you fail to establish aggro? Or did the dps run off and pull bonus mobs?