Baffling behavior

[Lexis]

Mind you, it wasnt 3 mobs or groups. It was 3 dudes. Not 3 sets of 3 or 4 guys. Just 3. In the span of 2 seconds, my life gets melted, healer was just negligent. Im glad im not crazy and many others here understand that healers can just be bad.

If you died in 2 SECONDS on a single pack of 3 mobs, then that is 100% a you problem. Work on your gear my guy o.O if a healer has to precast heals on single pack pulls, you're doing something very wrong, please don't inflict that kind of nightmare on unsuspecting strangers.

[Izscha]

i dont even know how you can 'melt' with 3 trashs in any dungeons, you must have a terrible gear or something because there is no way you die to 3 trashs even with 0 heal.

[Hausti]

Btw: it is possible to die within 2 seconds as a GNB:

/ac Superbolide <wait.1>
/statusoff Superbolide

Just saying

[SweetPete]

When I was a healer main every dungeon, trial and raid I checked my tanks gear to get a head start on if I’m gonna need to heal spam or I can just toss a regen/shield and dps my little heart out. Sometimes the healers should take the initiative just to get ahead of the game. I agree that maybe the op could of had better gear but in dungeons it’s all about team work. I think if they all had worked together instead of against each other the dungeon together would of been more tolerable.

To me it just seemed like to many egos collided and that was the downfall. If everyone was more understanding and humble it would of been fine.

[Lexis]

When I was a healer main every dungeon, trial and raid I checked my tanks gear to get a head start on if I’m gonna need to heal spam or I can just toss a regen/shield and dps my little heart out. Sometimes the healers should take the initiative just to get ahead of the game. I agree that maybe the op could of had better gear but in dungeons it’s all about team work. I think if they all had worked together instead of against each other the dungeon together would of been more tolerable.

To me it just seemed like to many egos collided and that was the downfall. If everyone was more understanding and humble it would of been fine.

You can buy level appropriate gear from vendors for a very reasonable amount of gil. There is simply no excuse for a tank to show up in a lvl 69 dungeon wearing lvl 60 gear (with stats that arent't even appropriate for tanking to boot). That's not teamwork on the tank's part, it's laziness.

Plus, having gear so terrible your healer can do nothing but heal spam you through single pulls just to keep the party going slows things down considerably. The healer can't contribute much dps and the tank isn't doing anywhere near the damage they should either.

It's just inconsiderate behavior to expect others to pick up your slack like that. Even more so if you, like OP, are going to berate the group as you do so. It's one thing to be ignorant and another to be willfully entitled.

[Thurmnmurmn]

So I find it funny that people are blaming his gear. The game has a minilvl put on place so according to squenix, he's geared enough.
People expectations are always way out of proportions with the gogo mentality and everyone outgearing dungeons.
One thing that squenix could put in place is having accessories contribute less to your total Ilvl. That way people being "undergeared" would be less frequent.

[LittleImp]

So I find it funny that people are blaming his gear. The game has a minilvl put on place so according to squenix, he's geared enough.
People expectations are always way out of proportions with the gogo mentality and everyone outgearing dungeons.
One thing that squenix could put in place is having accessories contribute less to your total Ilvl. That way people being "undergeared" would be less frequent.

Minimum ilevel requirements are one of the most heavily criticized aspects of the game. They're almost always set too low, don't account for role-agnostic gear and can be easily skewed by equipping a few pieces of synced gear.

Thinking that a GNB should be tankier than a DRG at level 69 isn't ridiculous at all.

[MikkoAkure]

So I find it funny that people are blaming his gear. The game has a minilvl put on place so according to squenix, he's geared enough.
People expectations are always way out of proportions with the gogo mentality and everyone outgearing dungeons.
One thing that squenix could put in place is having accessories contribute less to your total Ilvl. That way people being "undergeared" would be less frequent.

Most of his equipment is below the minimum requirement. He's only allowed in due to his accessories, his weapon, and his belt. Regardless, you're delusional if you believe that because it's technically allowed, going into that dungeon with that level of unpreparedness is totally OK. He wasn't having trouble with wall-to-wall pulls, he couldn't survive 3 mobs without being carried. Asking for better equipment on the tank isn't a big deal when he could have had a giant upgrade from an NPC.

This is a team game, but it's expected that each member of the team but in some effort and making sure you're properly geared is part of that. Walking around in something the game overall itself considers barely acceptable, you're already asking the people you were just teamed up with to make up for your shortcomings.

[Rinhi]

So I find it funny that people are blaming his gear. The game has a minilvl put on place so according to squenix, he's geared enough.
People expectations are always way out of proportions with the gogo mentality and everyone outgearing dungeons.
One thing that squenix could put in place is having accessories contribute less to your total Ilvl. That way people being "undergeared" would be less frequent.

ilvl is a hella bad indicator if someone has enough gear or not, do holminster, bardam's or doma at min ilvl and do a normal double pull there, you'll see how much of a non-argument "it's enough" is
people should always be geared as best as they could, there's no excuse but laziness to not stay on top of your gear game even if you're the casualest player of them all

also, the same squeenix whose 500 ilvl dungeons (or even certain 50/60/70 dungeons) can be completed without a healer or tank? that squeenix?

I'd just like to post a reminder, for clarity's sake, that the OP is using a Healer and a DPS accessory which does bump his ilvl up to meet the requirement, yet contributes little to his actual 'tankiness'. The minimum Ilvl isn't necessarily the issue here, it's the use of inappropriate accessories to cheat said Minimum Ilvl system into letting him queue for higher level dungeons.

noooo you can't say that, it's the people on the forum who are wrong, he's doing fine and they're just being mean!!

lmao-ing at people white knighting the self-important behaviour of OP and other similar players of any class, have some self respect

[Thurmnmurmn]

So just to clarify, I'm not defending the OP here. I wouldn't be for or against him because we don't have the whole story. Everyone here is just making scenarios in their heads that could be right or way off.
What my comment was directed at was an actual in game issue that has nothing to do with the OP in question. People can have much lower stats then intended if they get the Ilvl requirement through accessories.
Also another problem with the current Ilvl system is the massive gap between 50/60/70/80 dungeons and the lvling dungeons. Since we get so much more gear at those lvls we outgear all the end of expansion dungeons. Lvling dungeons however don't really have better gear then what it offers until you get past it.

ilvl is a hella bad indicator if someone has enough gear or not, do holminster, bardam's or doma at min ilvl and do a normal double pull there, you'll see how much of a non-argument "it's enough" is

This right here is a perfect example of what I meant about expectations. That a double pull is what you consider normal in a dungeon at min ilvl is not right. When you run dungeons when an expansion first comes out, most people are doing single pulls until were able to out gear it.