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    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    Rinh Neftereh
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    if the tank melts in 2-3 seconds from 3 mobs, OP's own words, so fast that he couldn't press his own cooldowns, a healer would not be able to save him either, yet he expected them to do so
    which is why I don't buy the OP's story that the second group had no problems, tbh
    you're generalizing every healer over a group of people wanting to heal more things, yet forgot to mention that just about as much want more dps spells, probably about the same amount of players want both and a fourth group is happy as is
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Willing to bet it was a healer that was leveling through lax content. It's no different than tanks leveling through other means instead of learning to tank through actual tanking content.

    Healing leveling dungeons is "harder" than doing "expert" roulette or things like Bozja any day as ilvl cap will stunt the bad healers just like that, no gear carry won't allow them to be lazy.



    You can kick for play style, you just can't be aggressive about it. Like if an FC queued with 2 people in a dungeon, you know who's going to win the vote draw. Plenty of people play this game like they think everyone solo queues everything.
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    Last edited by technole; 11-23-2021 at 12:19 AM.

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    Kantis Sagi
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    I'll say honestly that i got over it the night it happened. Again, I requeued in and completed it regardless what other users here are accusing me of. Truth be told, i got to 70 and did that dungeon again for duty roulette and i STILL saw instances where healers were being lazy. The game scales you down, we all know this. I can still die to mobs. It happened. I'm just perusing the nonsense replies here and thinking these people act like they've never died before to lazy healing. ITs whatever. I'm about to hit 80 and finish the SHB MSQs and Post quests. its all good here.

    The point of this whole thread was to say that we have players here whom have the wrong idea of prioritization.
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrogen View Post
    I'll say honestly that i got over it the night it happened. Again, I requeued in and completed it regardless what other users here are accusing me of. Truth be told, i got to 70 and did that dungeon again for duty roulette and i STILL saw instances where healers were being lazy. The game scales you down, we all know this. I can still die to mobs. It happened. I'm just perusing the nonsense replies here and thinking these people act like they've never died before to lazy healing. ITs whatever. I'm about to hit 80 and finish the SHB MSQs and Post quests. its all good here.

    The point of this whole thread was to say that we have players here whom have the wrong idea of prioritization.
    Complaining about about lazy healers whilst being no better yourself isn't a great look tbh. Exaggerating points to the extremes that you did was the icing on the cake. Just let it die++
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Complaining about about lazy healers whilst being no better yourself isn't a great look tbh. Exaggerating points to the extremes that you did was the icing on the cake. Just let it die++
    oh hey, petty post #40.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrogen View Post
    oh hey, petty post #40.
    It's quite a bit more than 40 to be honest

    Sometimes a bit of introspection is the best path to self improvement. Even if you weren't the root cause of the issue, there's generally always something you can do better to help avoid the issue in the future. Many suggestions have been made that'll long outlast your new gear such as hitting a cooldown just before you park the pull to make that initial damage spike more manageable when you inevitably run into more bad healers further down the line.
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Easy if you wipe on the first group of monsters or first boss because of healer not healing kick them. Like some where they say your hp went down to fast and couldn't heal you when been at that level of hp for few minutes. If it is the tank thats the problem kick them. I have been in few dungeons where ether the healer or tank been a bot.
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    Lu'kas Steinfheld
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    I'd love to believe you're over it, I really would, but then you come here and bump the thread days after the discussion had died down.

    Balancing DPS and Healing isn't 'wrong prioritization', it's what a healer does. You can agree or disagree, but continuing to argue about it here isn't going to accomplish anything nor exonerate you in the eyes of those who have already 'cast their judgement', if you will.

    Just let it die.
    Please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexis View Post
    I'd love to believe you're over it, I really would, but then you come here and bump the thread days after the discussion had died down.

    Balancing DPS and Healing isn't 'wrong prioritization', it's what a healer does. You can agree or disagree, but continuing to argue about it here isn't going to accomplish anything nor exonerate you in the eyes of those who have already 'cast their judgement', if you will.

    Just let it die.
    Please.
    excuse me...I will post on the thread I made as I please. I didn't have the time to converse with others as I have things to do outside of the forums. Today i had some time and didn't see that people stopped posting on it a couple days ago. You don't need to be here. Thanks
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    You certainly are free to post in your own thread, OP, but why bump it if you have nothing to add to the conversation? None of your posts add any substance, they just re-iterate how 'over all of this' you are while simultaneously refusing to let it go. There's now 18 pages for you to read and hopefully learn from, opposing viewpoints offering a perspective other than your own. What more do you want, beyond unwarranted attention?
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