"Everyone's so open and friendly" is a lie

[KizuyaKatogami]

I I don't miss the gen forums gaslighting players calling them bad because they pointing out a problem in the game. I don't miss the toxic players telling everyone to quit so their game can be their way and so more.

This basically describes a lot of the 14 community though. Bashing on others who point out obvious problems the game has. Telling to just unsub if they don’t like the game because they give criticisms etc.

[RyuDragnier]

This basically describes a lot of the 14 community though. Bashing on others who point out obvious problems the game has. Telling to just unsub if they don’t like the game because they give criticisms etc.

I have never met those individuals or seen anything like that in game, and I've been playing since 2.0's beta. Either I've been lucky, or Primal's community is better than the impression you're giving me of Crystal's community.

[Axxion]

I have never met those individuals or seen anything like that in game, and I've been playing since 2.0's beta. Either I've been lucky, or Primal's community is better than the impression you're giving me of Crystal's community.

you have been lucky. I have ran with every type of player on the primal center. Heck i got one a while ago that actually told me that i dont pay there sub, while i just asked them to stay with the group for a pvp match and not run off by them self.

My favorite one, when i asked a war what was wrong during a11 normal and he said "you dont need me because i suck" and just "dced" And i was being nice about and with no malice.

[nebby00]

I have never met those individuals or seen anything like that in game, and I've been playing since 2.0's beta. Either I've been lucky, or Primal's community is better than the impression you're giving me of Crystal's community.

Crystal's community is pretty.... something, and this is coming from someone who had a main on Crystal until just recently when I switched to Aether. It can be nice on the surface but if you get some people to open up about their experiences with people who aren't commonly out and about, it can be just basically a big yikes. Then again, that could be said about any MMO community though.

[Nethereal]

Crystal's community is pretty.... something, and this is coming from someone who had a main on Crystal until just recently when I switched to Aether. It can be nice on the surface but if you get some people to open up about their experiences with people who aren't commonly out and about, it can be just basically a big yikes. Then again, that could be said about any MMO community though.

People meme on Balmung but Crystal is pretty culty especially their crafting/gathering community.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I have never met those individuals or seen anything like that in game, and I've been playing since 2.0's beta. Either I've been lucky, or Primal's community is better than the impression you're giving me of Crystal's community.

While i *have* had my own fair share of....horrible experiences on crystal, ftmp im not even talking about that. Im talking moreso about some of the people on these forums,twitter,and reddit which, yes the latter two are toxic cesspools but they do make up a large portion of the community and the amount of people that are just absolutely against constructive criticism towards the game of any kind is scary. How is the game going to grow if people continuously gatekeep criticisms or just tell people to unsub because theres some aspects of the game they dislike and would like to be improved upon.As an example of Crystal shenanigans though, recently I literally got told im a toxic scumbag for asking people more than twice to aoe in a dungeon lol.

[ReynTime]

While i *have* had my own fair share of....horrible experiences on crystal, ftmp im not even talking about that. Im talking moreso about some of the people on these forums,twitter,and reddit which, yes the latter two are toxic cesspools but they do make up a large portion of the community and the amount of people that are just absolutely against constructive criticism towards the game of any kind is scary. How is the game going to grow if people continuously gatekeep criticisms or just tell people to unsub because theres some aspects of the game they dislike and would like to be improved upon.As an example of Crystal shenanigans though, recently I literally got told im a toxic scumbag for asking people more than twice to aoe in a dungeon lol.

FFXIV has no direct competition and to be honest hasn't had one in years. The people against constructive criticism will feel justified because of the game's success. It's just not going to change until an actual new big successful MMORPG takes its place by offering what it doesn't. Or interest in MMORPGs collapses so bad the game loses significant income generation on its own.

I have a long list of peeves with its current design but I'm not expecting them to be addressed. Because despite what I think the game keeps growing in popularity.

[KizuyaKatogami]

FFXIV has no direct competition and to be honest hasn't had one in years. The people against constructive criticism will feel justified because of the game's success. It's just not going to change until an actual new big successful MMORPG takes its place by offering what it doesn't. Or interest in MMORPGs collapses so bad the game loses significant income generation on its own.

I have a long list of peeves with its current design but I'm not expecting them to be addressed. Because despite what I think the game keeps growing in popularity.

Oh for sure. That’s why it’s so sad like, yes the game is growing atm but i’m not so blind by 14’s success as to think it’s purely because it has no faults. It’s just moreso there’s no competition right now. I’m hoping something comes out in the near future that either gives 14 competition that it causes some kind of turnaround in the way the community handles criticism, or a game i can at least jump ship too lol.

[Minnel]

Oh for sure. That’s why it’s so sad like, yes the game is growing atm but i’m not so blind by 14’s success as to think it’s purely because it has no faults. It’s just moreso there’s no competition right now. I’m hoping something comes out in the near future that either gives 14 competition that it causes some kind of turnaround in the way the community handles criticism, or a game i can at least jump ship too lol.

I'm hoping Lost Ark and Elden Ring does well when they do decide to launch in NA.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I'm hoping Lost Ark and Elden Ring does well when they do decide to launch in NA.

Elden ring isn't an MMO tho, it's a souls like.

And lost are will likely be another failure after a few months, like arch age, Tera, etc, etc.