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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscura View Post
    One of the first replies made nearly 35 minutes after the OP's post has a quote of the OP and is unedited(the reply, not the OP). Quotes do not update with the original post being quoted so I sincerely doubt this is the case.

    Edit: In fact, it says the OP's last edit was at the exact same time as the first reply in the thread.
    I love how you proved the poster post wrong and they didn't even apologize for the straight up lie to make the OP look like a bad person, instead saying stuff like;
    "just act maturely and you won't have a problem" or earlier, "It's okay to be frustrated it's not okay to turn Timmy OP into a punching bag. The rules are fine, just don't turn your fellow players into punching bags." "Controling one's self is a learned behavior otherwise emotionally people would all act like two year olds having tantrums. You are being asked by the rules to act maturely."
    y'know, not following the same thing they preach like so quite a few posters in this thread before

    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    I think my very original esoteric point was that: yeah, I believe the ff14 community is reasonably friendly for online game community, claim of friendliness and openness is nor lie but not 100% truth in every situation always, either. As should be expected. We are just people after all.
    that's what the gist of the discussion was, too, and yet it was removed completely, no one got insulted or anything, which is why it's so odd that it got deleted in the first place
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    I love how you proved the poster post wrong and they didn't even apologize for the straight up lie to make the OP look like a bad person, instead saying stuff like;
    "just act maturely and you won't have a problem" or earlier, "It's okay to be frustrated it's not okay to turn Timmy OP into a punching bag. The rules are fine, just don't turn your fellow players into punching bags." "Controling one's self is a learned behavior otherwise emotionally people would all act like two year olds having tantrums. You are being asked by the rules to act maturely."
    y'know, not following the same thing they preach like so quite a few posters in this thread before



    that's what the gist of the discussion was, too, and yet it was removed completely, no one got insulted or anything, which is why it's so odd that it got deleted in the first place
    You can edit a post multiple times, and it does t tell you how many or what was edited, so it's entirely possible the opening post was in fact quite different
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    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You can edit a post multiple times, and it does t tell you how many or what was edited, so it's entirely possible the opening post was in fact quite different
    it was edited 4 minutes after the initial post, the first response was posted at the same time of the edit, the 3rd way after and yet neither mentioned anything to what snorky said it did? come on, don't make excuses for someone straight up lying to appear better...
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    We should all come to each other through fire and war. It's the most honest approach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    “Passive-aggressive behavior is a pattern of indirectly expressing negative feelings instead of openly addressing them. ... For example, a passive-aggressive person might appear to agree — perhaps even enthusiastically — with another person's request.“

    I’d say sarcasm fits the bill perfectly with this definition and it’s been done a loooot in this thread. Also keep in mind mods culled a lot of posts for some reason, namely ones that were proving op and others right so…yeah lol
    Sarcasm may barely fit the bill, but not perfectly, as you can be sarcastic among friends without having any negative feelings toward them. Sarcasm is simply a means of mocking via irony.

    At any case, even if there are people using sarcasm in this thread, does that mean there is nothing to respond to? If the sarcasm still conveys an argument, you can engage with the argument. Or you can look for other posts that are not blatantly sarcastic and engage with those as well.

    I also do not think there is a rule saying you can't be sarcastic, so if a post is deleted, it is either because it contains a violation or it is quoting another post that is in violation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Passive-aggressiveness is better than flat out saying something rude in my opinion.
    Tbh I totally disagree, passive-aggressiveness is just disgusting and annoying imo.
    It almost feels like bait, like they want you to get mad so that you look like the asshole.

    I don't think that it's common tho in FFXIV if it's something someone runs into frequently then the issue probably lies with the common thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Tbh I totally disagree, passive-aggressiveness is just disgusting and annoying imo.
    It almost feels like bait, like they want you to get mad so that you look like the asshole.
    I disagree. Among strangers, you can happily be ignorant of passive aggressiveness and/or leave the person be negative on their own. Someone being rude doesn't give you that choice, which is why rudeness tends to more easily create a toxic environment.

    I think where passive aggressivenes causes more grief is among close friends, but that's also the kind of social group where general rudeness is more tolerated as you have different context with your friends. So it's kind of backward when dealing with strangers.
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    I'd rather have this than LoL. /shudder
    I was 10 seconds into my first PvP match when someone told me I should kill myself and it got only worse from there. An absolutely despicable community and I'm glad XIV actually does something against that.
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    There are unfriendly people in every walk of life. But I will say that this player base is no where near as bad as the last mmo I played. People are so much nicer, if we wipe for what ever reason no one rage quits like the other place.
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    Based on a lot of the responses I've seen in this thread it feels like a lot of people here are just looking for a fight.
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