"Everyone's so open and friendly" is a lie

[Solowing]

I think this is more of a negative bias. You remember all the bad events but none of the good interactions.

Although maybe the way you interact with people tend to push you into more confrontative situations.

Does a positive bias exist? Where people only want to consider good interactions? Which is the other side of the coin. Which is why i feel like this game suffers from toxic positivity, because people only want to see the good, and anything else doesnt count

Ive dealt with wayyyyyyyyyyyyy worse communities, this one isn't the worst by far. Its not a awful community, but is rather sensitive and a degree of disingenuous. During my WoW days, i enjoyed the community for that genuine feeling i got, just being a player in a video game, just being myself and making a friends group with people i get along well with.

Here, it feels like people are trying to role-play who they see themselves as, to RPers in a bubble its fine. But to myself who's more RP-lite, and rather make friends with the player rather the the idea of who they imagine themselves to be, it feels hollow to me.

I wanna make friends with humans with thoughts and opinions and feelings, not peoples Mary Sue characters that have 1 personality trait. I want depth.

(But then again the most social aspect of the game leans towards to RP crowd)

[Krotoan]

Does a positive bias exist? Where people only want to consider good interactions? Which is the other side of the coin. Which is why i feel like this game suffers from toxic positivity, because people only want to see the good, and anything else doesnt count

Negative bias is an actual adaption humans have. We are far more likely to remember negative interactions because it helped us survive. "last time I walked on those rocks it hurt a lot" is far more important to our immediate survival than "walking on the grass feels nice" and "The cave on the side of the lake has a bear that ate Thag in it" is VERY important to remember.

[Solowing]

Negative bias is an actual adaption humans have. We are far more likely to remember negative interactions because it helped us survive. "last time I walked on those rocks it hurt a lot" is far more important to our immediate survival than "walking on the grass feels nice" and "The cave on the side of the lake has a bear that ate Thag in it" is VERY important to remember.

And there is some truth to that. But does that make my experience any less valid?

[Krotoan]

And there is some truth to that. But does that make my experience any less valid?

No. But "positive bias" isn't it I think.

Toxic positivity is a thing, for sure, but it's not because of any sort of built in propensity of people to only notice positivity. More like "wishful thinking" creating toxic positivity.

[Solowing]

No. But "positive bias" isn't it I think.

Toxic positivity is a thing, for sure, but it's not because of any sort of built in propensity of people to only notice positivity. More like "wishful thinking" creating toxic positivity.

So my question to you is, does toxic positivity exist here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om57...AsmongoldClips

Zepla is joking about it, but its baked in truth that the community can kinda act like this.

[Krotoan]

So my question to you is, does toxic positivity exist here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om57...AsmongoldClips

Zepla is joking about it, but its baked in truth that the community can kinda act like this.

Sure. But it's not like FFXIVs community is particularly unique. It's the same people except with different rules and standards. I've been in nearly every major MMO's community at one time or another.. it's not like they ATTRACT different people entirely, it's all gamers. It's just the same people and those that can either stand the others or follow the rules end up being representative. As much as some players here would say something about "well this game caters to GOOD people"... naw.. you just can't constantly yell the "my ding-a-ling" limerick in shout all day like you could in the barrens.

People like to hopefully be a part of the "good" people or the "realistic" people or the "thick skinned" people, but they're just people. We're all gamers and that's like being someone who likes cars: Y'all can Chevy this or Toyota that.. but neither of those actually attract some type of person.

I think if anything I prefer this kind of community where there's at least superficial civility. I don't particularly like interacting with anyone other than my friends anyway and since it's basically against the rules to force yourself into my attention constantly, it's pretty good for me here.

[Izar_Chillen]

Sure. But it's not like FFXIVs community is particularly unique. It's the same people except with different rules and standards. I've been in nearly every major MMO's community at one time or another.. it's not like they ATTRACT different people entirely, it's all gamers. It's just the same people and those that can either stand the others or follow the rules end up being representative. As much as some players here would say something about "well this game caters to GOOD people"... naw.. you just can't constantly yell the "my ding-a-ling" limerick in shout all day like you could in the barrens.

People like to hopefully be a part of the "good" people or the "realistic" people or the "thick skinned" people, but they're just people. We're all gamers and that's like being someone who likes cars: Y'all can Chevy this or Toyota that.. but neither of those actually attract some type of person.

I think if anything I prefer this kind of community where there's at least superficial civility. I don't particularly like interacting with anyone other than my friends anyway and since it's basically against the rules to force yourself into my attention constantly, it's pretty good for me here.

Its the downside of every MMO that has lasted through multiple years and expansions . It happens to every game like it.

Take SWTOR a fully VO'd MMO with multiple cutscenes in all of the early flashpoints . In the early years you would be shunned for demanding players "SPACEBAR " to skip cutscenes and their were many across the board in dungeons.

Skip to 5+ years in and the group component for semi to hard content ( bar specific dungeons modes and raids of course) isnt necessary ( the healer tank dps combo isnt needed for normal dungeons any more and the old dungeon content scales upwards to max level) , vastly increased power creep , less and less content , players that need to take breaks but dont are yet again in the grind for the same old endgame gear/tokens and the attitudes even from vets is they dont care anymore and their acceptance to let new players experience cutscenes without being harassed is long gone .

Some people are so unaccepting now they will have no hesitation to rage quit leaving new players stranded or to make it worse the duty pop screen actually shows you the level of the team make up and if it isnt to their liking they will auto cancel the accept window and you could be stuck with duty pops being refused multiple times even in peak hours as there is no cancelation penalty for refusing a duty pop , and because so many now just expect the daily done in 10-15 minutes ( easily done with BiS equipped players in older upscaled dungeons) and not 25+ like it may take with upscaled lowbies.

Compared to the early years its hellish now.