"Everyone's so open and friendly" is a lie

[Solowing]

"Please leave."
"No." <---- This is the point of doing something wrong.

Hope I helped clear up the confusion.

Nah, i paid my subscription, and im not doing anything wrong.

Maybe, just maybe some people need to, tolerant of disagreements rather then threatening GM action when somebody says something that they dont agree with.

Im sure they were quaking fearing for their own safety while i sat there.

For myself, i would like the context for the cause to the conflict, not make up a reason and then move the report goal post, to something else. To me its like if the cops stopped you and patted you down but couldnt find anything, so they give you a non-compliance ticket just because they can shift it to that.

[LittleImp]

Nah, i paid my subscription, and im not doing anything wrong.

Maybe, just maybe some people need to, tolerant of disagreements rather then threatening GM action when somebody says something that they dont agree with.

Im sure they were quaking fearing for their own safety while i sat there.

For myself, i would like the context for the cause to the conflict, not make up a reason and then move the report goal post, to something else. To me its like if the cops stopped you and patted you down but couldnt find anything, so they give you a non-compliance ticket just because they can shift it to that.

Why do you feel the need to follow someone into their house and argue with them, though? It just kind of seems weird and aggressive, so it's not that surprising it would make someone feel uncomfortable.

It also technically is something wrong under SE's prohibited activities policy, as it would be classed as "Improper following".

[Midareyukki]

Nah, i paid my subscription, and im not doing anything wrong.

Maybe, just maybe some people need to, tolerant of disagreements rather then threatening GM action when somebody says something that they dont agree with.

Im sure they were quaking fearing for their own safety while i sat there.

For myself, i would like the context for the cause to the conflict, not make up a reason and then move the report goal post, to something else. To me its like if the cops stopped you and patted you down but couldnt find anything, so they give you a non-compliance ticket just because they can shift it to that.

...Translation:

"Hey, I'm alive, same as everyone else. So me stalking someone, making people uncomfortable and acting entitled to it is not a problem. People should stop complaining and not call the police."
...except, you know, in a virtual world.

Yeah mate, keep doing that, it's not like we have a ToS for anything. Also, here's a tip. The cops did pat you down and did find something: you did break the ToS. So maybe stop acting so smug and just grow something really simple that I recommend you try from time to time:

EMPATHY

Or just basic common sense, pick your poison.

[Imora]

Oh look, "you don't pay my sub".

I don't get the attitude. Just because you pay a sub doesn't entitle you to do anything with anyone.

[hagare]

Im going to be blunt, yes.

You feeling insulted doesn't mean im doing anything wrong. Rather then agreeing to disagree, you threaten me with a spurious report? Go ahead fill it out.

Not liking what somebody said that didnt attack someone, didnt insult anyone, or didn't target anyone. Not agreeing with someone isn't a reportable offense, but when people use their emotions and find anything that doesn't conform to their view as reportable because they see it as a personal attack.

Well. That's all we need. A straight up confession.
You disagreeing, isn't the issue.
Doesn't matter what caused the argument.
What you did, stalking and harassing someone in their house, their private property after being asked to leave, now that's THE violation.
Oh wow. I never thought I'd ever see a Karen in the official forum.
I am gonna need a drink.

[DRHaymaker]

Nah, i paid my subscription

And they paid theirs. That's not an argument. You are not entitled to do what you please.

Maybe, just maybe some people need to, tolerant of disagreements rather then threatening GM action when somebody says something that they dont agree with.

They're reporting you for not leaving, not because of what you said. They're two different issues. Sure they might be asking you to leave because they disagree with you, but they're still two different issues. Subjectively, I may agree with you, objectively, you were asked to leave, you didn't, so you're in the wrong.

For myself, i would like the context for the cause to the conflict, not make up a reason and then move the report goal post, to something else. To me its like if the cops stopped you and patted you down but couldnt find anything, so they give you a non-compliance ticket just because they can shift it to that.

This is so disingenuous. You admitted it was you, so you know the context. It's you. You're the conflict.

As to your analogy, you're not some person on the street, you're in someone's home. As far as I can tell, you're not even an invited guest - they know you only as a serial harasser. And I know you know this, because again, you admitted it was you they were talking about.

[Padudu]

Im going to be blunt, yes.

You feeling insulted doesn't mean im doing anything wrong. Rather then agreeing to disagree, you threaten me with a spurious report? Go ahead fill it out.

Not liking what somebody said that didnt attack someone, didnt insult anyone, or didn't target anyone. Not agreeing with someone isn't a reportable offense, but when people use their emotions and find anything that doesn't conform to their view as reportable because they see it as a personal attack.

some predatory behavior as reported to the Gms as stalking my members (proved through our chat logs) leaving messages in our books like, "I'm somewhere in your house RN" Refusing to leave the property when asked to do so. A FC should not be made to become Private because of an Individual. We interact with a lot of players from different FC's and worlds, so now we have to lock the world off because of that person? This seems a little one sided.

After reporting the same player for the 8th time for entering our FC house after asking them to leave and that they are not welcome because of predatory behavior

This is what you're admitting to, right? This is called being a creepy stalker fam, what do you mean spurious report? It sounds like you're harassing people and then throwing a fit when they, shockingly, don't want to interact with you for being an antagonizing stalker!

[SturmChurro]

Why do you feel the need to follow someone into their house and argue with them, though? It just kind of seems weird and aggressive, so it's not that surprising it would make someone feel uncomfortable.

Yeah, that's a bit much..

[anguel]

Im going to be blunt, yes.

You feeling insulted doesn't mean im doing anything wrong. Rather then agreeing to disagree, you threaten me with a spurious report? Go ahead fill it out.

Not liking what somebody said that didnt attack someone, didnt insult anyone, or didn't target anyone. Not agreeing with someone isn't a reportable offense, but when people use their emotions and find anything that doesn't conform to their view as reportable because they see it as a personal attack.

and this lady and gentlemen, really show in short the problem of ff14 regarding the community,
while most ppl are fairly "civilized" and respectfull of others, others like this person here, believe that just because they are "paying a sub", that they are entitled to absolutly no limit and can do whatever they want
true "god complex" with way too much pride, to even ask themself
"wow is what i am doing now, really ok ?"
really sad ...

[game_enjoyer]

I dont really think you do.

Maybe, you should educate yourself on what happened, or you look uneducated making claims like that.

You can make back-handed insult, but the only jerk here is me for not putting a infront of it....


Ahh gotta love FFXiv community. There's no toxicity here, its totally not hidden under a veneer



Didnt know you can feel unsafe in the comfort/safety of your own home, with the anonymity of of the internet because somebody disagrees with you. That cant see, hear or know who you are.... And that enough to report somebody?

This game is toxic, but a different breed of toxic, that tries to hide it under the surface

i can't believe they just came out and admitted to that. genuinely hilarious to post this as an example and then someone else immediately recognizing u as a serial harasser. poetry, honestly.