"Everyone's so open and friendly" is a lie

[hagare]

But its not a jerk move to report somebody to report somebody, not for breaking ToS. But because they said something you didnt like?

Isnt that on the opposite end of the toxicity spectrum?


World of Warcraft: A-holes
FInal Fantasy 14: Snowflakes

WoW: Toxic Negativity
FF14: Toxic Positivity

oh yeah. I definitely see the problem here xD

[Solowing]

oh yeah. I definitely see the problem here xD

I dont really think you do.

Maybe, you should educate yourself on what happened, or you look uneducated making claims like that.

You can make back-handed insult, but the only jerk here is me for not putting a infront of it....


Ahh gotta love FFXiv community. There's no toxicity here, its totally not hidden under a veneer



Didnt know you can feel unsafe in the comfort/safety of your own home, with the anonymity of of the internet because somebody disagrees with you. That cant see, hear or know who you are.... And that enough to report somebody?

This game is toxic, but a different breed of toxic, that tries to hide it under the surface

[hagare]

I dont really think you do.

Maybe, you should educate yourself on what happened, or you look uneducated making claims like that.

You can make back-handed insult, but the only jerk here is me for not putting a infront of it....


Ahh gotta love FFXiv community. There's no toxicity here, its totally not hidden under a veneer



Didnt know you can feel unsafe in the comfort/safety of your own home, with the anonymity of of the internet because somebody disagrees with you. That cant see, hear or know who you are.... And that enough to report somebody?

This game is toxic, but a different breed of toxic, that tries to hide it under the surface

are you..... Are you refusing to leave someone's house after being asked to?

are you the one being talked about in this thread?
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ssment-In-Game

[Solowing]

are you..... Are you refusing to leave someone's house after being asked to?

are you the one being talked about in this thread?
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ssment-In-Game

Im going to be blunt, yes.

You feeling insulted doesn't mean im doing anything wrong. Rather then agreeing to disagree, you threaten me with a spurious report? Go ahead fill it out.

Not liking what somebody said that didnt attack someone, didnt insult anyone, or didn't target anyone. Not agreeing with someone isn't a reportable offense, but when people use their emotions and find anything that doesn't conform to their view as reportable because they see it as a personal attack.

[DRHaymaker]

You feeling insulted doesn't mean im doing anything wrong.

"Please leave."
"No." <---- This is the point of doing something wrong.

Hope I helped clear up the confusion.

[Solowing]

"Please leave."
"No." <---- This is the point of doing something wrong.

Hope I helped clear up the confusion.

Nah, i paid my subscription, and im not doing anything wrong.

Maybe, just maybe some people need to, tolerant of disagreements rather then threatening GM action when somebody says something that they dont agree with.

Im sure they were quaking fearing for their own safety while i sat there.

For myself, i would like the context for the cause to the conflict, not make up a reason and then move the report goal post, to something else. To me its like if the cops stopped you and patted you down but couldnt find anything, so they give you a non-compliance ticket just because they can shift it to that.

[LittleImp]

Nah, i paid my subscription, and im not doing anything wrong.

Maybe, just maybe some people need to, tolerant of disagreements rather then threatening GM action when somebody says something that they dont agree with.

Im sure they were quaking fearing for their own safety while i sat there.

For myself, i would like the context for the cause to the conflict, not make up a reason and then move the report goal post, to something else. To me its like if the cops stopped you and patted you down but couldnt find anything, so they give you a non-compliance ticket just because they can shift it to that.

Why do you feel the need to follow someone into their house and argue with them, though? It just kind of seems weird and aggressive, so it's not that surprising it would make someone feel uncomfortable.

It also technically is something wrong under SE's prohibited activities policy, as it would be classed as "Improper following".

[Midareyukki]

Nah, i paid my subscription, and im not doing anything wrong.

Maybe, just maybe some people need to, tolerant of disagreements rather then threatening GM action when somebody says something that they dont agree with.

Im sure they were quaking fearing for their own safety while i sat there.

For myself, i would like the context for the cause to the conflict, not make up a reason and then move the report goal post, to something else. To me its like if the cops stopped you and patted you down but couldnt find anything, so they give you a non-compliance ticket just because they can shift it to that.

...Translation:

"Hey, I'm alive, same as everyone else. So me stalking someone, making people uncomfortable and acting entitled to it is not a problem. People should stop complaining and not call the police."
...except, you know, in a virtual world.

Yeah mate, keep doing that, it's not like we have a ToS for anything. Also, here's a tip. The cops did pat you down and did find something: you did break the ToS. So maybe stop acting so smug and just grow something really simple that I recommend you try from time to time:

EMPATHY

Or just basic common sense, pick your poison.

[DRHaymaker]

Nah, i paid my subscription

And they paid theirs. That's not an argument. You are not entitled to do what you please.

Maybe, just maybe some people need to, tolerant of disagreements rather then threatening GM action when somebody says something that they dont agree with.

They're reporting you for not leaving, not because of what you said. They're two different issues. Sure they might be asking you to leave because they disagree with you, but they're still two different issues. Subjectively, I may agree with you, objectively, you were asked to leave, you didn't, so you're in the wrong.

For myself, i would like the context for the cause to the conflict, not make up a reason and then move the report goal post, to something else. To me its like if the cops stopped you and patted you down but couldnt find anything, so they give you a non-compliance ticket just because they can shift it to that.

This is so disingenuous. You admitted it was you, so you know the context. It's you. You're the conflict.

As to your analogy, you're not some person on the street, you're in someone's home. As far as I can tell, you're not even an invited guest - they know you only as a serial harasser. And I know you know this, because again, you admitted it was you they were talking about.

[hagare]

Im going to be blunt, yes.

You feeling insulted doesn't mean im doing anything wrong. Rather then agreeing to disagree, you threaten me with a spurious report? Go ahead fill it out.

Not liking what somebody said that didnt attack someone, didnt insult anyone, or didn't target anyone. Not agreeing with someone isn't a reportable offense, but when people use their emotions and find anything that doesn't conform to their view as reportable because they see it as a personal attack.

Well. That's all we need. A straight up confession.
You disagreeing, isn't the issue.
Doesn't matter what caused the argument.
What you did, stalking and harassing someone in their house, their private property after being asked to leave, now that's THE violation.
Oh wow. I never thought I'd ever see a Karen in the official forum.
I am gonna need a drink.