Quote Originally Posted by anguel View Post
even if i absolutly agree with you there, and are right on this, ppl just have too much pride to even accept advice, playing since 2.0, and been a drk since heavensward released and never changed, its absolutly MINDBLOWING how many ppl just will take GREAT offense if you ever even "suggest" to give an advice, as a main tank (and many will be in my feet here) its a repeating thing, you see offended ppl everywhere for the slightest of thing, ppl are toxic with too much pride its a fact, and because of that yes ! i admit im tired of "trying" to give advice, because i dont want to risk having a god damn argument on "you dont pay my sub" thing too tired of it, tryed many MANY time, and way more time than i wished for ended in a pointless arguments, because again ppl have too much pride to even admit that they may be wrong
In my experience most ppl dont know what being helpful actually means, and think just lambasting someone and insulting them is Constructive Criticism and is suppose to help them. And when it proves ineffective they always act all surprised and try to cover up with "Im trying to help you"
When...all they did was just insult people. Which then creates a resentment which makes them Hostile to anybody who might actually try to be helpful.
Not that Im trying to ignore or discredit what your saying, it is an Issue on both sides and I get it, but it mostly comes down to how its done; which may involve the unfair balance of you taking someones crap to try and eventually get through to them.

And....if Diplomacy fails.....you tried...it sucks and feels like wasted time. But you can't esuna stupid, or help people unwilling to accept it.
Just find a new group.