"Everyone's so open and friendly" is a lie

[Dewslam]

It sucks since we can't tell people they are incompetent anymore, alliance raids take 1 hour to finish (without wype), what a hell.

Paradigm Tower in that amount of time what a pleasure...

I guess all the skilled players are on break.

Alternative theory: there's one consistent in your experiences and it probably isn't that every time you do a raid you suddenly find yourself in a parallel dimension where everyone but you is magically bad at the game.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Well listen, we have to express our frustrations rather than play the sheep, unless we risk a ban.

People are mostly incompetent, that's a fact.

I probably shocked your sensibility without meaning to, what do you want?

And, I have never been banned for telling a person that they should learn to play.

Heres some Advice.....GIVE Advice.
Try BEING Helpful, address the issue, and offer a solution, ask if the person knows what they are doing. And do so, without being a Jerk about it.
Im sure calling someone Incompetent, general Name calling and putting somebody down isn't going to make them play better or learn anything. Your more likely to start a fight and an argument, or probly get reported for being toxic, which means nothing gets done.

Try that 1st. If they are rude back and are clearly not taking any advice, then nothing you an do.
But I promise calling them Incompetent does nothing useful either. Unless you just enjoy insulting people.

[Krotoan]

It sucks since we can't tell people they are incompetent anymore, alliance raids take 1 hour to finish (without wype), what a hell..

Sure I've slowed down a bit so maybe I'm missing these long raids ... but what raid is taking an hour? Ever?

is Chaos DC that much different than Aether?

[Hatfright]

Sure I've slowed down a bit so maybe I'm missing these long raids ... but what raid is taking an hour? Ever?

is Chaos DC that much different than Aether?

I have no expirience with Aether, but probably not. Tho it's possible to do raid in 1 hour w/o a complete wipe, just kill 2 groups entirely every fight and let remaining group do all the job while still collecting all the tankbusters. But in that case I struggle to understand why not start over with explaining what's goin on. Or leave if the speed is not to your liking and bothers you so much.

[Kes13a]

Look, there is what the marketing team presents and there is reality.

When you're in the game, you can see how unpleasant people are when something goes wrong and several minutes before, nobody talks about raid alliances and others.

have some raids been groaners? sure can. never had anything run out to an hour though.

but then, apparently we are all carebears on Crystal, guess we still get the job done though ^^

I am so happy I am not on a "leet" server group, things seem to take a lot longer

[Krotoan]

I have no expirience with Aether, but probably not. Tho it's possible to do raid in 1 hour w/o a complete wipe, just kill 2 groups entirely every fight and let remaining group do all the job while still collecting all the tankbusters. But in that case I struggle to understand why not start over with explaining what's goin on. Or leave if the speed is not to your liking and bothers you so much.

Aether is supposedly the "raiding" DC, so I was thinking mayyyybe we just don't have that kind of problem cause the population is all "tryhards".... but.. yeah. I don't think I've ever had something that bad other than day 0 science of new raids. Even if other whole parts of the alliance die , the RDMs and Healers (and SOMETIMES the SMN, hee hee) usually recover that pretty dang quick.

[Sigiria]

is Chaos DC that much different than Aether?

Don't think it is. I've been running raids a bunch, trying to gear all my jobs before the expansion, and I can't even remember the last time I ran into a raid wipe.
Completion time somewhat vary and sometimes one party will wipe but is usually instantly raised.

[Jadedsins]

I feel like some people don't understand what freedom of speech really is, and why in a video game you not only don't have that, and you should not have it.


This whole thing is because of how aggressive our culture is with each other. We are hyper competitive, and in MMO since we spend so much time in them, time we will never get back. "Fun" is subjective but seems to tied to many mmo players progression as well. If I log on, I want to feel like I progress in something. If others hold me back. I should be able to tell them they are, and they are ruining my fun.


I don't have this problem myself, but that is how my husband acts in other mmorpgs. If a group is wasting his time, he is not scared to say it. Even if I find that immature, He at least is mature enough to respect a games rules, and standards. We are humans so we can adapt to things.


So even if this fake kindness is "fake". That is fine? Most humans are not decent people, and I've seen proof of that in the last 8 or so years more so than normal. So a game that forces you to play nice or pay the price is what mmo players need. In fact after watching new world. I think it should be the standards.

[anguel]

Heres some Advice.....GIVE Advice.
Try BEING Helpful, address the issue, and offer a solution, ask if the person knows what they are doing. And do so, without being a Jerk about it.

even if i absolutly agree with you there, and are right on this, ppl just have too much pride to even accept advice, playing since 2.0, and been a drk since heavensward released and never changed, its absolutly MINDBLOWING how many ppl just will take GREAT offense if you ever even "suggest" to give an advice, as a main tank (and many will be in my feet here) its a repeating thing, you see offended ppl everywhere for the slightest of thing, ppl are toxic with too much pride its a fact, and because of that yes ! i admit im tired of "trying" to give advice, because i dont want to risk having a god damn argument on "you dont pay my sub" thing too tired of it, tryed many MANY time, and way more time than i wished for ended in a pointless arguments, because again ppl have too much pride to even admit that they may be wrong

[Cyreil]

Look, there is what the marketing team presents and there is reality.

When you're in the game, you can see how unpleasant people are when something goes wrong and several minutes before, nobody talks about raid alliances and others.

Maybe that is because, ironically, everyone with your attitude decided to pile into one data center. You get into a "raid sever" but you apparently can't complete a raid because you all cancel each other out after one mistake.