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    It sucks since we can't tell people they are incompetent anymore, alliance raids take 1 hour to finish (without wype), what a hell.

    Paradigm Tower in that amount of time what a pleasure...

    I guess all the skilled players are on break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki34 View Post
    It sucks since we can't tell people they are incompetent anymore, alliance raids take 1 hour to finish (without wype), what a hell.

    Paradigm Tower in that amount of time what a pleasure...

    I guess all the skilled players are on break.
    The population of the game has expanded. You will find new players in every second game. It is pretty normal that they do not know all the mechanics for the first time. Nobody can know something that they never known before.

    I did 3 ShB and 3 HW relic weapons in the last 2 weeks and ran CT raids probably 70+ times during this time. I have seen different teams and compositions during this period. There is no need to generalize. Sometimes you get lucky sometimes you do not. If someone wants pro players I highly suggest to ask around their own FC to run dailies with, or join a "pro" linkshell. I am in a linkshell that runs Minimum item level oldschool content and sometimes spend 5 hours learning a content that everyone else does in 5-10 minutes because they go unsynced.

    I understand that people can be snowflakes sometimes and get frustrated if you point out their mistake. But a very easy way to remedy is that you tell them how to do better instead of telling them, "oh you f*cked up" or "oh you are incompetent..." - these will not help the raid to go faster. Nothing wrong with being pissed at people for not learning from mistakes. But on the other hand, it is hard to learn when you dont know what you did wrong or how to do things better... I have sen many people leaving raids cause of sprout's slow learning, but they never even tried to help the sprouts to learn. To be honest, I feel like its best for everyone if they leave and we get another person to fill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki34 View Post
    It sucks since we can't tell people they are incompetent anymore, alliance raids take 1 hour to finish (without wype), what a hell.

    Paradigm Tower in that amount of time what a pleasure...

    I guess all the skilled players are on break.
    Alternative theory: there's one consistent in your experiences and it probably isn't that every time you do a raid you suddenly find yourself in a parallel dimension where everyone but you is magically bad at the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki34 View Post
    It sucks since we can't tell people they are incompetent anymore, alliance raids take 1 hour to finish (without wype), what a hell..
    Sure I've slowed down a bit so maybe I'm missing these long raids ... but what raid is taking an hour? Ever?

    is Chaos DC that much different than Aether?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Sure I've slowed down a bit so maybe I'm missing these long raids ... but what raid is taking an hour? Ever?

    is Chaos DC that much different than Aether?
    I have no expirience with Aether, but probably not. Tho it's possible to do raid in 1 hour w/o a complete wipe, just kill 2 groups entirely every fight and let remaining group do all the job while still collecting all the tankbusters. But in that case I struggle to understand why not start over with explaining what's goin on. Or leave if the speed is not to your liking and bothers you so much.
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    "The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfright View Post
    I have no expirience with Aether, but probably not. Tho it's possible to do raid in 1 hour w/o a complete wipe, just kill 2 groups entirely every fight and let remaining group do all the job while still collecting all the tankbusters. But in that case I struggle to understand why not start over with explaining what's goin on. Or leave if the speed is not to your liking and bothers you so much.
    Aether is supposedly the "raiding" DC, so I was thinking mayyyybe we just don't have that kind of problem cause the population is all "tryhards".... but.. yeah. I don't think I've ever had something that bad other than day 0 science of new raids. Even if other whole parts of the alliance die , the RDMs and Healers (and SOMETIMES the SMN, hee hee) usually recover that pretty dang quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    is Chaos DC that much different than Aether?
    Don't think it is. I've been running raids a bunch, trying to gear all my jobs before the expansion, and I can't even remember the last time I ran into a raid wipe.
    Completion time somewhat vary and sometimes one party will wipe but is usually instantly raised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Sure I've slowed down a bit so maybe I'm missing these long raids ... but what raid is taking an hour? Ever?

    is Chaos DC that much different than Aether?
    while I don't completely agree with their point, I've had multiple WoD's, dun scaiths and ivalice raids that took over an hour on primal
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