"Everyone's so open and friendly" is a lie

[KizuyaKatogami]

The game won a reward based on its community behavior, and it's not the first time it's been lauded this way.

You realize this means very little right? Of course the community is going to vote for itself lmao, this isn’t a surprise especially with the influx of new players.

[Hyrist]

You realize this means very little right? Of course the community is going to vote for itself lmao, this isn’t a surprise especially with the influx of new players.

If we're playing a game of numbers voting for themselves, World of Warcraft should be absolutely dominating those charts! (Note, this is said in satire if you didn't catch the tone.)

More to the point. FFXIV wouldn't even be up for voting if it did not qualify for a note to put it up for consideration. The fact that it's seen buy in large as a contender alone is a merit to its community. Of course those who enjoy their game and appreciate its community are going to vote. It's numbers are a testament to that statement, not a disqualifier. Your logic in this sort of boggles the mind. "We love this game and we like the people in it, but we can't vote for it because we love this game and play with the people we like in it."


It makes no sense.

if I risk an infraction because I'm telling player A that their refusal to do mechanic X is making it impossible to progress, then yes, the community is coddled

You don't. That's a strawman argument. Your poor social skills in relaying that message to the player in a manner of which that matches the minimum bar of common decency is what puts you at risk.(Not you personally, adapting the second case due to your use of first case in this hypothetical.) And rampant negativity would harm anyone's enjoyment. The message itself isn't a risk and most players are capable of relaying assistance and feedback on playstyles without issue. It's the outliers that get reported.

As far as these forums being an affect: It was the very same introspection I mentioned that lead to that conclusion, actually. It's not so much the difference of opinion but the bad faith arguments and overall negative tone which is such an incredibly stark contrast to those who are actually playing the game and enjoying themselves while doing so. (In the several friends groups I have this place is universally referred to as a cesspool. Anecdotal sure, but as I said, environments determine experiences.) Sure, the opinions differ, and tolerating them is a fair statement - to a degree. But there are limits and I know mine better.

It may not be that you are a miserable git - but the arguments most commonly seen here? Defiantly depict misery. Whether that's someone just coming to air grievances so they don't in their own groups, or they feel like it's valid critique doesn't change the negative contribution to the environment - and I found myself better for only visiting these places in the rarer downtime moments. I'll reiterate this - you may benefit from taking time to figure out what's affecting you and how to alleviate that - rather than simply pointing the blame.

For me? It's taking these forums in shifts.