Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
I think that if large swathes of the community are being ignored in order to declare that same community to be 'great' then it is a sign that things aren't nearly so wonderful after all.

Exactly how many 'exceptions' does there need to be before something becomes an established trend, for that matter?
Well, I disagree that they are large "swaths" of the community. If they were, the community's perception of itself would be different.

Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
This behavior is heavily, albeit maybe inadvertently, encouraged by widespread community attitudes.

A lot of online content for this game revolves around bashing other games. If you look at the top FFXIV reddit posts from this year, the top two are about WoW. There are many more wow-related memes in the top 20, almost all of them being overwhelmingly negative. I've also seen content reach the front page mocking New World, and basically any other MMO that has launched during FFXIVs lifespan. Just look at how frequently threads about other games are created in this forum, even though it's usually totally irrelevant to 14.

I've never been in another gaming community that relied so heavily on bashing other games, and the people who enjoy them, for content. Maybe back in like 2010 with the whole CoD vs Battlefield thing?



Try mentioning that you play New World, World of Warcraft, or League of Legends into basically any public chat on 14 and see what happens.
Well, considering this game has plenty of players that come from other games, it does seem a significant portion of them would have some baggage that they carry over.

But criticizing another game doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing as far as community relationship goes.

In fact, it can also go the other way. People using other games as example of what they don't like to see and people just brush it off with statements like "WoW bad, FFXIV good." That's just another form of saying GCBTW.