And if someone does get mad? Not like it's an emotion that never happens in people.It's called have a civil discussion, or debate. You don't need a fight or argument to get our point across...if you do, you may want to revisit how you respond to different situations and adjust your attitude accordingly. Getting mad isn't the only option available to people.
This thread's a roller coaster. Up and down and all around but always in the same circle.
Hmmm... this post just got massively edited.
Man... and all of my well thought arguments and retorts just faded away.
Oh well - nothing to see here. Everyone as you were!
Last edited by MaikoRaines; 11-18-2021 at 09:27 AM. Reason: Perhaps the real arguments were the friends we made along the way.
Guess there is no point quoting it again then.
Agree to disagree
Btw about your "all tanks" stuff in bozja zadnor, they did think about it with the reduce HP / greatly increase damage item.
Even with full tanks you can have insane damages with the good stuff and that's the whole point of using items.
OP, for several years of my playtime in this game I was in the same boat as you. I felt insane! I played this game, I loved this game, but I thought I was playing a radically different game to everyone else. While everyone I knew said the game was full of cool, friendly, people and an open and fun community; I only seemed to find people who constantly harassed others, screamed about parsers and optimal strategies even in casual content while the community at large heavily gatekept pretty much anything they could, while simultaneously harassing anyone trying to make progress. It was terrible and led to me quitting the game for a long period of time, coming back; finding nothing had changed, and quitting again when I ran out of story content to do.
And then a good friend of mine started playing and I made a character on their server. And let me tell you; it was night and day. People weren't calling eachother slurs in chat! People were being friendly! People actually did fates out in the wild, and most of the party finders weren't locked and gatekept behind having max item level for even basic things, and I only saw one or two people ever even talk about parsers let alone spend an entire raid or dungeon harassing people for not parsing higher! So when server status changed and free transfers to that server were open, I took the chance, jumped ship and never looked back.
I used to play on Cactuar. You can not pay me to ever go back there. People blame Asmongold for its community, but no dawg. It was awful before, "wow refugees" are just a convenient scapegoat for people being forced to face the fact that their server has a really hostile and caustic attitude and always has.
I've been in just about every online community there is since the original bulletin board days. I also do primarily PUG content in this game, and I can say with a fair degree of certainty that for me at least this is one of the best overall communities I've seen in a long time.
Every community out there has it's bad apples, that's just people in general. But here that's seemed like the exception, not the rule. My interactions in ffxiv have been almost 100% positive. My first week playing the game someone gave me a free mount. We talked for a bit and they seemed like a genuinely nice person. You might say "that's just one person and most people aren't like that" and I would have been inclined to agree with that if most of my interactions with people hadn't been pretty much the same. Just normal people being decent to each other and having a good time. The general sense of mirth and whimsy is really strong around here and it has been a serious breath of fresh air.
Like I alluded to earlier, even the PUG content has been more relaxing than others I've played. In dungeons or even raids, everyone always seems to be having a good time and wanting to help others learn, etc. People almost always greet each other at the beginning, with usually having some commentary along the way. When someone messes up or doesn't do well, people don't start raging at them calling them a terrible person with various epithets, etc. Quite the opposite.
Even the little things like Leap of Faith at the Golden Saucer with people cheering others on at the finish line with dances and glow sticks. It really has been a good time for me.
If all you see is negativity wherever you go, you'll be naturally drawn to it and you won't find anything else. This is coming from someone who was an extremely angry person for more than half his life. I get it, I've been there.
This thread just made me think of the thing above.
people were having a civil discussion about various aspects of the community and experiences of it, but apparently that was worth removing? nothing that was said by anyone that took part in it was against the rules, there was no name calling, no one was insulted, people were just writing their experiences and/or observations down
though, one could certainly argue that one of the mentioned aspects of the community is either very report happy when directly mentioned or worse, the moderation wants people to not talk about it a la reddit
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