Place retainers in apartments

[Necrotica]

Can this be done? Cause the scroll says it can only be in gardens/outside of houses. And internet search says the same thing.

But that makes no sense. Why would they not want us being able to place retainers in apartments?

[Jojoya]

We cannot place a retainer inside a house/apartment like we do in the yard of a house plot. I don't know if an explanation was ever given for whether it was an intentional design choice or some sort of "spaghetti code" problem that existed at the time the permit was added to the game.

Considering it's possible to have mannequins "selling" gear listed on a retainer inside of a house or apartment now, it seems strange they haven't taken it further so we can have the permits inside now as well.

[Solowing]

Can i at least bring a suggestion where i can have 1 pet of choice, wandering around my house. Even when im offline? DCUO has a system where they have housing pets that wander around the house.

[Jojoya]

Can i at least bring a suggestion where i can have 1 pet of choice, wandering around my house. Even when im offline? DCUO has a system where they have housing pets that wander around the house.

YoshiP has said many times that pet/minion pathing inside of housing would be a problem because they couldn't be programmed not to walk through objects so it's not something they're interested in adding.

Part of the idea behind Island Sanctuary is to give players a place to let their minions walk around.

[AiUsagi]

Idk if I'm worried about retainers, but I would like to see the glamour dresser become available as a housing item!

[Kenky]

Idk if I'm worried about retainers, but I would like to see the glamour dresser become available as a housing item!

This will sadly, never occur.*

* - based on how the Glamour Dresser (and by extension, the Armoire) works on the behind-the-screen setting. It would cause unnecessary amounts of server-burden and lag that could make things almost unplayable for older or slower machines.

Think about it. Let's use a rather average example for this.

You're a member of an FC about.. 40 or so large. All relatively active and all with an extensive dresser list, as you all enjoy the fashion endgame.
- Your FC lead puts down a Glamour Dresser in your FC house.
-That Glamour Dresser now needs to load all 400 items, including what items, what type, if they are dyed and all of your plates. Per person.
- 400 x 40. 16,000 things it needs to process every time someone enters the FC house. Reloading it when someone new enters said house.

On single-instances, it doesn't sound that bad. But then give every home-owner a Glamour Dresser with a similarly full dresser and you can see it starts to add up rather quickly. (~4,000 houses in total. ~25% of all houses being FC houses, etc.)

There's really only one potential way around it and that's locking the Load to only YOUR stuff, rather than everyones. But it would still require a lot of re-tooling under the metaphorical hood.

Edit: The Houses & 25% thing is an estimated ballpark. Not an exact number. But I hope you get the point.

[Illmaeran]

I hope they add at least an apartment sized internal housing area to Island Sanctuaries so we could have a glamour dresser in them. Since I visit Gridania at least once per session to mess with my squadron, going to the inn isn't a burden at all, but it would be nice to be able to mess with glamours on my island. If that ends up not being a thing, no harm, no foul.

[MilkieTea]

I hope they add at least an apartment sized internal housing area to Island Sanctuaries so we could have a glamour dresser in them. Since I visit Gridania at least once per session to mess with my squadron, going to the inn isn't a burden at all, but it would be nice to be able to mess with glamours on my island. If that ends up not being a thing, no harm, no foul.

There’s a glamour dresser in the squadron command center! All they need to do is add a retainer there and it’d be golden ;-;

[Illmaeran]

There’s a glamour dresser in the squadron command center! All they need to do is add a retainer there and it’d be golden ;-;

I keep forgetting about that as I usually go to the inn to mess with the retainers first. Thanks for the reminder.

[True-to-Caesar]

That part of the housing system makes no sense to me.

• You can only place a retainer outdoor, so from the get go, you forbid anyone not owning a house to have their retainer as decoration.
  
• You can only place mannequins indoor, so if you have a house, you can’t place mannequins outside, like say «guards».

Both outdoor/indoor options should work for mannequins and retainer permits.