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    Can someone give me more info on this if there is any? I mean I know what's in the PDFs, I am just bad at searching I guess if there has been more info then that.

    I don't know how any others feel but it is something I'm greatly looking forward to and hope that it has a lot of time spent into it. Although I will continue playing FFXIV if it just blows it is something that will almost be a deal breaker for me to continue playing.

    PvP is something I have always loved to be able to do on the side after I'm done killing dragons. It actually relieves a lot of stress being able to hack n slash another player. I also think if it is as good as I'm hoping it could even bring an a lot more players (though I really don't know).

    Thanks in advance if anyone has anything.
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    All we know is Yoshi also loves PVP, and there is that PVP Arena, I feel it is going to be very much like XI's Ballista, and not much more than that, for now.

    There will be no open world PVP or "PKing" and PVP will always be an after thought, also it is likely the developers will (and likely already have) put themselves in shacks with bad engine development, even in 2.0 there will be animation locks and prone mover-ability, along with lack of jumping which may come.

    There is only really 2 games doing PVP right imo but thats for different reasons and even those have their faults, 1 is TERA, its huge Pro is its huge, huge dedication to PVP with Guild vs Guild, Open World PVP, with optional servers and lots of battle arenas, but no Hot Joins and lots of animation lock, then there is GuildWars 2, with epic hot join like Xbox Live, its huge server vs server vs server and its insanely fluid animation engine that has ZERO animation locks, and its fluid jumping system, tho it lacks graphical quality and variety.

    How XIV will handle it, is still tightly knit down, it will also be AFTER 2.0 as far as im aware. So at least 2013 before it arrives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    All we know is Yoshi also loves PVP, and there is that PVP Arena, I feel it is going to be very much like XI's Ballista, and not much more than that, for now.

    There will be no open world PVP or "PKing" and PVP will always be an after thought, also it is likely the developers will (and likely already have) put themselves in shacks with bad engine development, even in 2.0 there will be animation locks and prone mover-ability, along with lack of jumping which may come.

    There is only really 2 games doing PVP right imo but thats for different reasons and even those have their faults, 1 is TERA, its huge Pro is its huge, huge dedication to PVP with Guild vs Guild, Open World PVP, with optional servers and lots of battle arenas, but no Hot Joins and lots of animation lock, then there is GuildWars 2, with epic hot join like Xbox Live, its huge server vs server vs server and its insanely fluid animation engine that has ZERO animation locks, and its fluid jumping system, tho it lacks graphical quality and variety.

    How XIV will handle it, is still tightly knit down, it will also be AFTER 2.0 as far as im aware. So at least 2013 before it arrives.
    So after the end of the world? lol jk. Dang that kinda makes me sad if it is like ballista tbh. I didn't really like any of the PvP in FFXI at all. I also thought they are working on doing stuff to fix the animation locks? IDK. As it stands though if we had PvP with how the combat system is atm I think it would kinda suck, just to slow I feel.

    I wonder what kind of PvP gear there is going to be too and the skills, makes me wonder if they will have a stat the reduces player dmg or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    So after the end of the world? lol jk. Dang that kinda makes me sad if it is like ballista tbh. I didn't really like any of the PvP in FFXI at all. I also thought they are working on doing stuff to fix the animation locks? IDK. As it stands though if we had PvP with how the combat system is atm I think it would kinda suck, just to slow I feel.

    I wonder what kind of PvP gear there is going to be too and the skills, makes me wonder if they will have a stat the reduces player dmg or something.
    Not to mention the current skills would make it hugely unbalanced, they'd need to make arenas with specific skill sets, you would never be bale to combo properly right now as i can freely move to directions to avoid it (or is that a good thing?) and a Mage would just destroy lol.
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    I believe they mentioned the possibility of different skills for PVP, making it possible to balance PVP and PVE seperately. Not sure if that's what they're gunna do, though.

    Also, there will be another type of PVP, the small colossium-like type where its 1 on 1 or small group v small group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Not to mention the current skills would make it hugely unbalanced, they'd need to make arenas with specific skill sets, you would never be bale to combo properly right now as i can freely move to directions to avoid it (or is that a good thing?) and a Mage would just destroy lol.
    It's a good thing!! i can see it now!! I can't wait

    I remember back in ballista me and 2 other friends. Bound a guy, did a light skill chain on him AND a magic burst. (He had on an HP Buff) needless to say it destroyed him. But yeah, basically it'll help comboing if the person is stationary.
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    I know that I've read somewhere that there will be a colloseum implemented. I am very much into PvP as well so this got me excited when I read the title.

    Hopefully though it will be on an easier flow than ballista, in the sense that as of now there are no "quick" classes such as THF or NIN from FFXI. The balance is also a big trouble for the current skills and abilities. Especially because with enough Piety for a BLM/THM they have mobility as "-ga" "Flare" and as well as "Blizzara" which allows them to bind, burn, and do heavy area damage. I am wondering how they'll improve these battle skills! Pretty exciting!
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    Don't quote me on this, but I want to say somewhere that the reason animation lock is such a bad problem now is that the upper half an the lower half of the body share animations, so they can't seperate the two. Which leads me to believe in 2.0 that a lot of things like buffs will only have an upper body animation like in WoW or TERA, where you can run and still have an animation for buffing/some magic at the same time. How this applies to things such as WS', which SE is known to be very intricate about, is still in the dark though.
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    So someone told me this in LS chat today, does anyone know if GC's are suppose to be like "factions" and that is how we are going to pvp against people? Would be interesting if it was, though I hope they would allow to change GCs once or something if they did this.
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    Last edited by Eliseus; 05-04-2012 at 07:18 PM.

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    I believe some where have mention that Yoshi will plan tp implant owpvp as well but only for certain area and not full map only if there are a lot of request they ll make a pvp server, so the PVP might be siege/arena/pk

    ps: dont remember where but I believe it is a answer from an interview of Yoshida after announcement of 2.0
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