Bypassing auto log out

[Nekaru_Infitima]

You guys also forget Yoshida's vision (which is expressed with housing for one.)

He wants an active, immersive, realistic world.
While AFKers being removed for queue is a thing now and possibly in expansion where its' required.

The reason it's not shamed on ourtside of congestion (aka everyone in this topic saying 'why would they do that' 'spooky'). Is because AFK people make it more realistic and immersive. What city doesn't have the local bum, street performers, loiterers, and crowds hanging out? Unless Limsa is a city that closes its doors at night, then there's probably the latenight crowds as well.
It makes the world more lively.

[TaleraRistain]

I've also fell asleep at my computer intent on pulling an allnighter but failed, only to wake up to "HOOOOOOOOOOOOME" which was probably playing on repeat all night.

I've done that as well and nearly fell out of my computer chair when I idled out because I had headphones on

Why report it? How would you even prove someone's doing it to deliberately avoid the auto kick? I mean I'm absolutely certain some are, but I've also gone afk while talking to my retainers and gotten distracted only come back hours later just plain having forgotten I was still logged in : p

Why no, I've never tabbed out to read a webtoon while Quick Synthing and realized three hours later I was still logged in, nope, not me.

[wereotter]

You guys also forget Yoshida's vision (which is expressed with housing for one.)

He wants an active, immersive, realistic world.
While AFKers being removed for queue is a thing now and possibly in expansion where its' required.

The reason it's not shamed on ourtside of congestion (aka everyone in this topic saying 'why would they do that' 'spooky'). Is because AFK people make it more realistic and immersive. What city doesn't have the local bum, street performers, loiterers, and crowds hanging out? Unless Limsa is a city that closes its doors at night, then there's probably the latenight crowds as well.
It makes the world more lively.

100% disagree. If I went to my local shopping district and dozens of people were just standing around staring blankly and not moving, I wouldn't think "wow what a lively environment!" I'd think there's something wrong with them, and maybe seek out help. People standing AFK doesn't add to the world other than to just make it harder for others to get on to actually play the game.

Additionally.... one has to wonder about your own health if you go away to use the restroom, and hear the login screen pop on before you complete your business as it's a 30 minute timer before it boots you out. Or your need to stay logged in when you go to sleep.

That aside, yes, this is punishable if they can prove it, though someone has to also notify the GMs of the potential problem.

[Averax]

100% disagree. If I went to my local shopping district and dozens of people were just standing around staring blankly and not moving, I wouldn't think "wow what a lively environment!" I'd think there's something wrong with them, and maybe seek out help. People standing AFK doesn't add to the world other than to just make it harder for others to get on to actually play the game.

Additionally.... one has to wonder about your own health if you go away to use the restroom, and hear the login screen pop on before you complete your business as it's a 30 minute timer before it boots you out. Or your need to stay logged in when you go to sleep.

That aside, yes, this is punishable if they can prove it, though someone has to also notify the GMs of the potential problem.

Yeah... it kind of just gives off the illusion of an active game. Genuinely curious to see if cities would look remotely similar if people were unable to bypass the logout.

[Moonlite]

What sucks is the people who use the hud in instances to not get booted. In open world you may or may not be making someone wait in que. In an instance you are maliciously hurting others game experience. At least eventually/hopefully you can boot them.

[Chekopacheko]

If the world is not congested then I don't mind AFKers, I mean its their choice and electricity anyway, but if we are currently experiencing congestions/high queue times, etc. then I very much mind, as they are potentially keeping people who actually want to play the game from logging in or experiencing really high queue times.

[Anienai]

No. Just go to HUD editor, game can't tell if you're actually spending all night being OCD on your HUD or actually just AFKd.

Your avatar is too cute!!

[Risvertasashi]

What sucks is the people who use the hud in instances to not get booted. In open world you may or may not be making someone wait in que. In an instance you are maliciously hurting others game experience. At least eventually/hopefully you can boot them.

Firstly, you don't seem to understand the definition of malicious.

But for instances this doesn't work anyway. The autokick in those doesn't give you a confirmation prompt of "push this button to confirm you're still here", it just kicks you. And being vote kicked doesn't care what you're doing or if you're even online - assuming the vote passes, it always goes through.

[Moonlite]

Firstly, you don't seem to understand the definition of malicious.

But for instances this doesn't work anyway. The autokick in those doesn't give you a confirmation prompt of "push this button to confirm you're still here", it just kicks you. And being vote kicked doesn't care what you're doing or if you're even online - assuming the vote passes, it always goes through.

"intending to do harm" Planning to afk for something you que for is intending to do harm.



The autokick won't kick you if you are open in a certain menu. I literally tried this with friends. We sat on discord and waited to be booted and game couldn't. You never wonder how people who never move in 24 mans aren't afked out? Now if reporting wasn't such a pain. This is clearly an abuse of of a design flaw in game.



The vote kick is more A) you have to wait B) you can't have loot. I have only seen this type of behaviour in two types of content 24 mans and pvp.

[Risvertasashi]

In instances, it's people moving a small amount to reset it. It doesn't take much. That said I mostly see it abused in MSQ roulette since it's difficult to initiate a kick with so many back to back cutscenes leading into fights. 24 mans people usually get kicked if they truly AFK (not for like 2 minutes between fights; long enough for everyone to see they're not there), though yes, it is a bummer when the loot timer gets in the way.