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    Player
    Zumi's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Zumi Kasumi
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100

    Ifrit's Claws or Mogfists

    I have both Ifrit's Claws and Mogfists which one should I be using?
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    charlemagne's Avatar
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    Jul 2011
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    Uldah
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    Character
    Charlemagne Ifrit
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Ifrits claws
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    Relic's Avatar
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    Character
    Relic Omega
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Mogfist for open world farming, the extra accuracy helps. Ifrit's claws for instances usually, Garuda being the exception since her evasion is very high.
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    Player Shosasosa's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Character
    Shosa Sosa
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Talons or GTFO
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    Character
    Relic Omega
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Shosasosa View Post
    Talons or GTFO
    Yeah if you like to auto attack a lot... gimped WS damage.
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    Character
    Sanctus Thefarter
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Relic View Post
    Yeah if you like to auto attack a lot... gimped WS damage.
    I'm not so sure. I've been parsing a brd in our ls and his avg ws damage was the same on garuda with ifrits bow and garudas. needs more testing. Several times his avg damage on ws was higher than ifrit, and his auto attack damage was substantially more, auto attack is underrated
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  7. #7
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    yukikaze_yanagi's Avatar
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    Yuki Ynagi
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    most of pgl damage comes from auto attack. attacking faster helps in that, even with reduced ws damage
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    Character
    Panzer Strike
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Puggle-Poppers for fun Ifrit for business, just got the talons last night so need to test.
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    Character
    Tyrith Peng
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    most of pgl damage comes from auto attack. attacking faster helps in that, even with reduced ws damage
    Not actually true.

    Firstly WS damage is based on dps and not weapon damage so since both weapons have very similar dps amounts the WS damage will be similar with ifrits maybe edging out slightly due to the very small difference in dps values.

    Secondly auto attacks should generally only account for 15-20% of total damage done if you are maximising your damage output, for example the only fight we actively use MNK on atm is Mistress and i generally end around 19-20k damage dealt when she dies with only 2.8-3k of that total being from auto attacks.

    Talons should currently be the BiS if you can obtain them but if not i would still go with ifrits claws / GC claws unless you need the health regen from mog fists.
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    Character
    Frein Mannis
    World
    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    As Peng pointed out, DPS appears to be the primary damage modifier for WS, not the weapon's damage stat. This is a recent discovery.
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