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  1. #81
    Player
    Blindheart's Avatar
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    Sesile Kokoro
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Got to 80 on this today. This is the worst issue. Soul reaver should stay up unless we use one of those 2 skills or the tome runs out. I constantly forget to do the debuff on single taget fights and i go to reapply it before using a soul reaver action and then i loose the skill

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcflare View Post
    My biggest gripe with Reaper so far is that doing literally anything else other than using Gibbet and Gallows after you get Soul Reaver stacks will eat the stacks. This feels like an oversight more than intentional design but it still feels awful to deal with. Theres no reason using Bloodbath should eat the stacks.

    I think Soul Reavers, instead of being a buff, need to be changed to an actual resource which you can stack and Gibbet and Gallows should be changed to OGCD's as resource spenders. This change would make the job feel much more fluid throughout its rotation instead of making its basic combo feel like its just really bad filler when you have nothing else to do because the basic combo feels so insignificant. Im only level 81 so far but based on the description of abilities acquired down the line it doesnt look like that will change but i could also have missed something.
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  2. #82
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    Tulzscha's Avatar
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    Tulzscha Abbith
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Yeah the Soul Reaver stacks disappearing on any ability use feels like a bug, but it encourages thinking ahead which I like. Also enjoy the debuff for the same reason, I need a job with more management since SMN was dumbed down. The job's pretty fun so far imo. If I played melee at all before EW I might find it boring but I'm not even 80 yet so it's all new and flashy to me.
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  3. #83
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    I get it about Soul Reaver I don't rly like that you lose them either.
    On the other hand, the Job is already so insanely easy that maybe there should be something punishing people for not paying any attention or just spamming buttons?

    It doesn't bother me that much but I do get it.
    At the same time I kinda also feel like does it really need to be even easier?

    It wouldn't bother me if they made it so you didn't lose the stacks but I also think that players should be able to make the wrong choices and screw up, when you essentially can't screw up unless you're doing it intentionally then I think it becomes a bit ridiculous.
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  4. #84
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    shao32's Avatar
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    i don't really see the problem with soul reaver stacks, just combo Gluttony and Blood stalk with Gibbet and Gallows like the oGCD-GCD combo they are and that's it.
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  5. #85
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    Daws's Avatar
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    Midnight Risk
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Yeah, I like Soul Reaver as is tbh. If you mess up your mudras you don't get them refunded to you. Just be mindful when Soul Reaver is up. It becomes second nature eventually.

    Now that I'm 80 on RPR, the job has really grown on me. I like the flow, love the mobility, and I'm a big fan of having a phase that speeds up/alter your rotation a la MCH. Very excited for Enshroud at 90 with all the button action.

    RPR will be my first 90
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  6. #86
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Daws View Post
    Yeah, I like Soul Reaver as is tbh. If you mess up your mudras you don't get them refunded to you. Just be mindful when Soul Reaver is up. It becomes second nature eventually.

    Now that I'm 80 on RPR, the job has really grown on me. I like the flow, love the mobility, and I'm a big fan of having a phase that speeds up/alter your rotation a la MCH. Very excited for Enshroud at 90 with all the button action.

    RPR will be my first 90
    As a side note, if you want to test it you can go to the PvP area and test it on a dummy.
    All of the Enshroud skills are there.
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  7. #87
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Character
    Bastilaa Shan
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    With Death Design I usually do 1 for mobs and 2 for bosses.

    Basically if you know it won't last 30 seconds don't waste a GCD on reapplying unless you want a safety cushion.

    Overall the job is satisfying and scratches that Dark Knight itch I've always had.
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  8. #88
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    Tulzscha Abbith
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    i don't really see the problem with soul reaver stacks, just combo Gluttony and Blood stalk with Gibbet and Gallows like the oGCD-GCD combo they are and that's it.
    It doesn't read like they should disappear on using any ability, it'd be nice if that at least was more clear. I've run into a few situations while leveling where I kill one mob and have to use the Reaver stack before debuffing the next mob if it's too far to pull in advance. Feels kinda bad but it's also a rather niche situation that doesn't matter a great deal.
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  9. #89
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tulzscha View Post
    It doesn't read like they should disappear on using any ability, it'd be nice if that at least was more clear. I've run into a few situations while leveling where I kill one mob and have to use the Reaver stack before debuffing the next mob if it's too far to pull in advance. Feels kinda bad but it's also a rather niche situation that doesn't matter a great deal.
    Toolkits while usefull in the most part they are times they don't told you everything or are not very accurate, thats why a dumy and some experimentation always go hand to hand with read them to fully understand whats going on, yeah having that mention on then would be nice like many other stuff in several skills across the jobs buuuut we all know how is SE with that.
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  10. #90
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    Taranok's Avatar
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    Character
    Arilaya Syldove
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Blindheart View Post
    Got to 80 on this today. This is the worst issue. Soul reaver should stay up unless we use one of those 2 skills or the tome runs out. I constantly forget to do the debuff on single taget fights and i go to reapply it before using a soul reaver action and then i loose the skill
    The 'of Death' abilities are awful. They exist to be annoying and literally nothing else. If those abilities were removed, the only time you'd care is if an add spawned mid fight (or trash pulls). This isn't a situation like WAR's storm's eye, where it basically exists to provide some extra texture to what would otherwise be a 1-2-3 rotation, this is Mutilate, but for Reapers. You throw it up whenever it falls off (or is about to) and otherwise forget about it.

    Those 2 abilities and soul sow represent the worst aspects of Reaper's design in terms of buttons, and having reaver fall off for doing anything wrong is the reason I hated Tsubame-Gaeshi's implementation.
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