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    Player
    Lyth's Avatar
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Viper Lv 100
    Oh look. The job isn't even released and there are already other melee dps mains feeling insecure about it. Spreadsheet, spreadsheet, on the wall. Which is the most complex job of them all? It's always going to be the job you happened to invest in, right?

    But you know what? We're going to have a lot more fun than you. Eat your heart out, Gyoten.
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Oh look. The job isn't even released and there are already other melee dps mains feeling insecure about it. Spreadsheet, spreadsheet, on the wall. Which is the most complex job of them all? It's always going to be the job you happened to invest in, right?

    But you know what? We're going to have a lot more fun than you. Eat your heart out, Gyoten.
    I don't care about a complexity pissing match, Sam is somewhere in the middle, complexity-wise.

    But reaper is overtly close to the bottom of the list. There is virtually no friction to the kit whatsoever. Which is fine! It's a big part of why I am leaning towards playing it. I mostly threw that in there because I have no idea what Kahnom's point actually is.
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    Pocket Prince
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 57
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Oh look. The job isn't even released and there are already other melee dps mains feeling insecure about it. Spreadsheet, spreadsheet, on the wall. Which is the most complex job of them all? It's always going to be the job you happened to invest in, right?

    But you know what? We're going to have a lot more fun than you. Eat your heart out, Gyoten.
    Maam, this is the DPS Forums.

    When has it NOT been a complexity comparison contest?

    "My class requires 6 years of University and a Masters Degree to comprehend it's intricate complexities. Therefore it's the only real choice and I deserve to do top damage. Upvotes to the left."
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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

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    K'ahli K'uhla'tor
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    Maam, this is the DPS Forums.

    When has it NOT been a complexity comparison contest?

    "My class requires 6 years of University and a Masters Degree to comprehend it's intricate complexities. Therefore it's the only real choice and I deserve to do top damage. Upvotes to the left."
    Except Red Mage. Most of the people I know who play Red Mage are like "Yes, I play it because it is easy and I find it fun."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd View Post
    Except Red Mage. Most of the people I know who play Red Mage are like "Yes, I play it because it is easy and I find it fun."
    Same with DNC.

    I just like playing helpful classes and not worry about DPS Numbers as much.

    I'd rather raise my fellow players up than be the star of the show.

    Getting back to the thread though, I will def be getting Reap to 90 eventually if anything for those absolutely GORGEOUS animations.
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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd View Post
    Except Red Mage. Most of the people I know who play Red Mage are like "Yes, I play it because it is easy and I find it fun."
    Red Mage at a glance seems complicated but when you play it, it's really easy. I think Reaper is going to be the same way. Especially since they more or less function the same way in build meters then spend meters on big booms.
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    Iedarus Meridus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Spreadsheet, spreadsheet, on the wall.
    It would actually be magic spreadsheet. Mandela effect.
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    Argyle Darkheart
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    Behemoth
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    Warrior Lv 90
    While theorycrafting RPR right now is a little silly, my understanding is that it has a very busy and specific 2 minute/re-opener that has to use Arcane Circle and a filler GCD (ideally Shadow of Death) in the middle of an Enshroud in order to fit double Communio in buffs.
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    Ravi Kurlgargyey
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    Louisoix
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
    While theorycrafting RPR right now is a little silly, my understanding is that it has a very busy and specific 2 minute/re-opener that has to use Arcane Circle and a filler GCD (ideally Shadow of Death) in the middle of an Enshroud in order to fit double Communio in buffs.
    You would probably wanna do Enshroud + Arcane Circle, Enshroud combo, Plentiful Harvest + Gluttony, Enshroud and Enshroud combo, Harvest Moon/50 Gauge attack for your re-opener.

    Maybe you could weave Blood Stalk + Gluttony in the middle for 3 Soul Reaver stacks afterwards. Don't know how those stacks work wrt that.
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    Arlizz Teirez
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 90
    I went back and watched the media tour video again and I can safely say that the whole mechanics is about resource management and prioitize both of your GCDs and OGCDs, it's more complex than I thought.
    To be specific, The Soul Reaver stack is the core of the job since each stack used will increase shroud gauge by 10.
    Many skills said " Stack count will be reduce to 1 when you're already have Soul Reaver stack" this means if you already got 1 Soul Reaver stack and use the skill that will grant another stack, your stack will not increase to 2 stacks but remains at one stack. So the goal here is to deplete Soul Reaver stack by using G&G (Gibbet and Gallows) before getting another stack.

    I believe, This is the interesting part because I'm sure a lot of people will capped the stack unintentionally which is a big dps loss for Reaper.
    There are many things I want to say but since this is subject to change so I hold my horse for now but hell yeah the job looks promising.
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