Reaper Megathread

[Hozomeen]

While theorycrafting RPR right now is a little silly, my understanding is that it has a very busy and specific 2 minute/re-opener that has to use Arcane Circle and a filler GCD (ideally Shadow of Death) in the middle of an Enshroud in order to fit double Communio in buffs.

You would probably wanna do Enshroud + Arcane Circle, Enshroud combo, Plentiful Harvest + Gluttony, Enshroud and Enshroud combo, Harvest Moon/50 Gauge attack for your re-opener.

Maybe you could weave Blood Stalk + Gluttony in the middle for 3 Soul Reaver stacks afterwards. Don't know how those stacks work wrt that.

[Argyle_Darkheart]

You would probably wanna do Enshroud + Arcane Circle, Enshroud combo, Plentiful Harvest + Gluttony, Enshroud and Enshroud combo, Harvest Moon/50 Gauge attack for your re-opener.

That wouldn't work because Enshroud's recast is 15 seconds, meaning you need to use 3 filler GCDs in between Enshroud casts. If you sync Arcane Circle and Enshroud, then Arcane Circle would wear off just before the eight Void/Cross Reaping.

Moving a filler GCD (Shadow of Death) to the start of the first Enshroud and casting Arcane Circle after the second Void/Cross Reaping fits everything else under Arcane Circle neatly. The other option I'm aware of is to cast Arcane Circle after the third Void/Cross Reaping and have enough skill speed to hit the second Communio in time. The advantage to the latter is that you can use Gluttony after the first Enshroud, rather than after the second.

What the exact 2 minute window ends up looking like will depend on the final build, but it looks like you'll have to do something like this if you want to fit both Communios under buffs.

Maybe you could weave Blood Stalk + Gluttony in the middle for 3 Soul Reaver stacks afterwards. Don't know how those stacks work wrt that.

At least in the Media Tour build, Soul Reaver doesn't stack like that, and it is consumed by any GCD. So, you essentially have to combo Blood Stalk/Gluttony immediately into Gibbet/Gallows.

I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of these things is changed at some point, but I doubt it would happen prior to release—not that I think it's really a cause for concern.

[Drkdays]

Just caved and got the collector's $60 expansion, just for the scythe. $20 for a weapon glamour. NOREGERTS! Go big or go home...

#RPRMain.

[ShaolinMike]

I like the fact that a lot of the buttons are on the GCD. I can enjoy the show without doing finger gymnastics on my controller.

[MaulScarreign]

It looks fun. I main a NIN and I'm looking forward to this and the changes in MNK.

[Hozomeen]

That wouldn't work because Enshroud's recast is 15 seconds, meaning you need to use 3 filler GCDs in between Enshroud casts. If you sync Arcane Circle and Enshroud, then Arcane Circle would wear off just before the eight Void/Cross Reaping.

Moving a filler GCD (Shadow of Death) to the start of the first Enshroud and casting Arcane Circle after the second Void/Cross Reaping fits everything else under Arcane Circle neatly. The other option I'm aware of is to cast Arcane Circle after the third Void/Cross Reaping and have enough skill speed to hit the second Communio in time. The advantage to the latter is that you can use Gluttony after the first Enshroud, rather than after the second.

What the exact 2 minute window ends up looking like will depend on the final build, but it looks like you'll have to do something like this if you want to fit both Communios under buffs.



At least in the Media Tour build, Soul Reaver doesn't stack like that, and it is consumed by any GCD. So, you essentially have to combo Blood Stalk/Gluttony immediately into Gibbet/Gallows.

I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of these things is changed at some point, but I doubt it would happen prior to release—not that I think it's really a cause for concern.

Oh, I see. This is gonna be pretty difficult seeing as the only GCDs you *can* fill with *during* Enshroud are Shadow of Death and Harvest Moon, apparently. I think doing two full Communio combos and a Plentiful Harvest would be the most powerful Arcane Circle window, but it's probably not worth it delaying Gluttony. It seems like only a a 4-5% gain. A second Reaping Arcane Circle with late Gluttony (this requires two Shadow of Death as Enshroud fillers beforehand) is barely behind, but at that point you're also drifting/delaying Gluttony quite a bit already. How do you envision this late Gluttony buff window to work with only one filler beforehand? Harvest Moon in the middle?

It seems to me like the early Gluttony burst would be the most comfortable to line up, since you could then avoid drifting Gluttony and wouldn't have to worry about filling the Enshroud before your burst.

[Argyle_Darkheart]

Assuming you're not going to drop combo (another reason you would want to have two filler GCDs between Enshrouds), you would use Soul Slice as the second filler GCD. Also, I think you can still cast Harpe during Enshroud, but that's not really an option lol.

Using Gluttony as filler between Enshrouds sounds nice, but I'm not sure if it lines up consistently or at what Skill Speed(s). Having to use it late sucks, but the way Soul Reaver works limits your options on when you can effectively use it. Gluttony is honestly looking to be the most finicky part of RPR, but it's too early to say whether it (Soul Reaver, really) should be tweaked or not.

There's a good amount of RPR theorycraft discussion on The Balance, if you're interested. All of it is somewhat speculative, of course, since the final build could change in a number of ways.

[Hozomeen]

I assumed a lot of this was from The Balance. Alas, I don't really like to use public Discords, lol.

I heard that combo timers are getting extended to 30s, so dropping the combo shouldn't be an issue, aside from maybe Enshroud just canceling it, I'm not sure whether it does.

Here's my plan for doing an early (at the 4s mark) Gluttony on a 2.5s GCD: assuming your first GCD starts about 0.7s into Arcane Circle because of the animation lock, you would hit your first Communio 3.5s into Arcane Circle (after the last Reaping). 1.2s later, you could fill for 3 GCDs. The best choice would be Gluttony and Plentiful Harvest. Your next Communio combo could therefore start at 12.2s into Circle. It takes 8.5 seconds, so you would end it at 20.7s. Since Communio's cast time is 1.3s, the last one would hit at 19.4s, so barely in the window.

This is only 7480 potency inside the Arcane Circle window. Dropping the Reaping and Lemure's Slice hurts a lot. But you would not have to think about filling GCDs under your first Enshroud beforehand at all, so I think this would have the least constraints on execution.

As far as I can tell, there are three other ways to fit two Communios into Circle:

1. Just doing two full Communio combos with Plentiful Harvest in between for 7640 potency (I think a Gluttony could barely land within the Circle at the end to make it 8140 actually, but only if you have pretty good ping in order to weave Gluttony into 1.2s without clipping.). This would line up pretty comfortably only if you do a 2nd GCD Arcane Circle opener, since you wanna start Arcane Circle after filling Enshroud with 2 Shadow refreshes in a row.

2. Doing half a Communio with a delayed Lemure's Slice at the start with only 1 filler GCD in between to fit Gluttony plus both Reave attacks in at the end for 8200 potency. This would need a 3rd or 4th GCD Arcane Circle opener to line up comfortably with the Shadow refresh, since you need to fill with Shadow two times in a row under Enshroud and then do two Reapings before using Circle.

3. Starting on half a Communio with a delayed Lemure's Slice but doing 2 filler GCDs under Arcane Circle, one of them being Soul Slice presumably. This third option would fit 8140 potency into Circle with Soul Slice as a filler. This option would require a 2nd to 4th GCD Arcane Circle to line up properly, I think. You would need Arcane Circle to be used no later than about 5s after your last Shadow application. Only having to fill with one Shadow makes this more flexible. It's also comfy to have the gauge for Gluttony guaranteed from Soul Slice. But this comes at a cost of having to make sure to hold a Soul Slice. So it's not really easier than simply holding 50 gauge to begin with.

I think I will go for the second option, which has the highest potency under buffs and no Communio weaves.

Edit: looking more closely at the openers now, and I realized that you'd probably want to use your Arcane Circle 6-7s before 15s buffs like Trick or Chain Strat get used, because otherwise your Communio might fall out of them due to the forced 6s delay on using Plentiful Harvest. 2nd GCD early weave Circle opener it is. For this, I think just using two full Communios in your reopener is not bad at all, since you drift Gluttony by 3s either way.

[Maxilor]

I can't wait to take my Reaper into Sastasha.

[Juzjuzz]

Yes i'm a bad player