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    The loot system needs a little bit of a revamp.

    I rolled a 98 on a chestpiece from Abyssos (which was the highest, it ended up going to somebody who rolled a 34) But for some reason the game gave me the legs that came after the chestpiece in the loot order (From left to right) Is this just random? I don't understand.

    People won't roll on certain things, which causes you to pass on all other items, which if for whatever reason you don't get the one item you need, it causes you to lose out on every other item you passed on because you can't go back and change your choice.

    Even if it was gear by gear, somebody may not roll on it because they're waiting for something else, and it creates this infinite problem.

    Just a little suggestion because the system is not the greatest at the moment.

    Maybe make the gear have a loot order or something, like everyone has to roll on the first one, then second one, then third one, etc.
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    Everyone finished the roll/passed on the legs first, so it was given away first. It went to you, thus negating your ability to take any other loot that week.

    Doing it piece by piece would take forever. Just roll need on the pieces you want, and pass on the ones you don't. If you absolutely MUST have that chest piece? ONLY roll on the chest piece and hope for the best. With 8 items dropping per run, waiting out a timer for each one would be maddening, and wouldn't change much, and may make things worse because then there would be no priority system for things early in the loot order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyndles View Post
    Everyone finished the roll/passed on the legs first, so it was given away first. It went to you, thus negating your ability to take any other loot that week.

    Doing it piece by piece would take forever. Just roll need on the pieces you want, and pass on the ones you don't. If you absolutely MUST have that chest piece? ONLY roll on the chest piece and hope for the best. With 8 items dropping per run, waiting out a timer for each one would be maddening, and wouldn't change much, and may make things worse because then there would be no priority system for things early in the loot order.
    When there's 8 pieces of loot, need should take precedence over greed.

    If I need 2 items, and greed the rest, the needs should be rolled on first, because I selected Need for those.

    Currently, the game incentivizes people sitting on the timer trying to wait people out and it's just frustrating for everyone involved. Frustration is bad design.

    They can change like I said above or simply shorten the timer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    You get 5 minutes. And usually a quick line in party chat is enough to get the loot done quicker. "/p passed everything but x and y.." couple of people usually follow up with "same" or "passed everything except y and z. And then people roll faster on all the stuff you've passed
    This is basically the approach I've taken. "I'm just here for Item X, if ya'll could please roll on it I'd appreciate it."
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    Elan Centauri
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    Sounds like you need to prioritize what you roll on. The loot system is fine, and it is fair.
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    Remember to pass on all other items first.
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Remember to pass on all other items first.
    This. Eliminate competition, then roll on the item you actually want.
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    Sounds like you trolled yourself tbh.
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    Just roll 1 item at a time, you have 5 minutes anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopebot View Post
    I rolled a 98 on a chestpiece from Abyssos (which was the highest, it ended up going to somebody who rolled a 34) But for some reason the game gave me the legs that came after the chestpiece in the loot order (From left to right) Is this just random? I don't understand.

    People won't roll on certain things, which causes you to pass on all other items, which if for whatever reason you don't get the one item you need, it causes you to lose out on every other item you passed on because you can't go back and change your choice.

    Even if it was gear by gear, somebody may not roll on it because they're waiting for something else, and it creates this infinite problem.

    Just a little suggestion because the system is not the greatest at the moment.

    Maybe make the gear have a loot order or something, like everyone has to roll on the first one, then second one, then third one, etc.
    That's exactly why manypeople don't roll untill all the stuff they don't want has been rolled for.. higher chance then of getting the piece they want. And doing exactly what happened to you. You rolled a 98 and someone beat you with a lower roll..

    It can create a bit of an issue if you want the chest but won't roll u till someone's won the legs..

    Someone wants the legs but won't roll until someone's won the chest.

    And then someone else wants the boots but won't roll until someone's won everything else..

    You get 5 minutes. And usually a quick line in party chat is enough to get the loot done quicker. "/p passed everything but x and y.." couple of people usually follow up with "same" or "passed everything except y and z. And then people roll faster on all the stuff you've passed
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    Saimeren Stons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    That's exactly why manypeople don't roll untill all the stuff they don't want has been rolled for.. higher chance then of getting the piece they want. And doing exactly what happened to you. You rolled a 98 and someone beat you with a lower roll..

    It can create a bit of an issue if you want the chest but won't roll u till someone's won the legs..

    Someone wants the legs but won't roll until someone's won the chest.

    And then someone else wants the boots but won't roll until someone's won everything else..

    You get 5 minutes. And usually a quick line in party chat is enough to get the loot done quicker. "/p passed everything but x and y.." couple of people usually follow up with "same" or "passed everything except y and z. And then people roll faster on all the stuff you've passed
    That's good advice.
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