Small rant about certain toxic WoW refugee behaviour

[Canadane]

There's no such thing as early pulling hunt marks.
But trash talking and etc is a violation and can be reported if you are offended by it.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Man, it lives rent free in y'alls heads, don't it?

Game tribalism is stupid, XIV community is just as much of a toxic cesspool - we're just a passive aggressive lot compared to blatantly aggressive. Which frankly, I consider a lot more insidious and disturbing.

A player from WoW acting like an idiot isn't any worse than a player from XIV acting like an idiot. An idiot's an idiot, no matter what game they came from or started with. Trying to paint it as WoW bad XIV good just makes you come off like a child.

Couldn’t have said it any better myself about the passive aggressive problem and yeah i’d agree it’s way worse as at least the wow stigma is more up in your face rather than behind your back.

[Reinha]

Separately, in Final Fantasy XIV, player communities may have their own specific set of loosely established rules and guidelines, which involve their own manners, morals, and etiquette. These community-specific rules and guidelines are not officially established as a unified set of rules for the entire community, so they may differ from one community to another. What may be acceptable in one community may be objectionable in another.

If there is a situation in which a person repeatedly says or does something that can be judged as intentionally trying to disrupt the peace, such as "intentionally ignoring the community-specific rules and guidelines while being aware of them" or "unwilling to learn of them," a report can be made. If we determine that the behavior falls under our prohibited actions, a penalty will be imposed.

Each data center will also be judged based on the social customs of that data center's region in the real world.

Does that not apply?

[Jojoya]

Just wanted to share my concern and annoyance with you guys and if you've had similar experiences or not.

Theres this guy on light datacenter that keeps early pulling hunts. Then he just trashtalks everyone and saying bad thing about the FFXIV community.
And when I messaged him to ask why he does this he just says that WoW is better and hes only here to raid when endwalker comes anyway so he doesn't care people blacklist him.

I know early pulls have always been a thing now and then. But this guy is taking it to another level of toxic.
Also I'm aware it's not a bannable offense.

I hope you realize you're no better than he is. You're targeting him because he used to be a WoW player. That is pretty darn toxic of you.

Early pulls have nothing to do with WoW. Trash talking has nothing to do with WoW. Those are actions of an individual and plenty of players have done both in this game without ever having played WoW.

Verbal harassment is a reportable offense. Try reporting it. If the player is as bad as you say, SE will end up banning him and then he won't be bothering your community anymore.

[Gullis]

Report and move on. Just don't trashtalk back, as that will only make things worse

[DBriggs304]

Again, WoW wasn't always the trash can community that it can be now, but I suspect that's about to change as they sound like they are about to start enforcing the rules they should have been 10 years ago before the community went south.

It's not all WoW players but you run into more unpleasant folks now than pleasant ones. But it did seem to be improving when I last played.

[Shin96]

Toxicity has become such a blanket category wherein anything that's opposing to popular belief is called toxicity. A few bad words mean absolutely nothing; our dear developers have provided us the blacklist option and censoring of slur words. Make use of them, everything else is a people issue.

I prefer having the right to say what I think, even if that gives someone else the right to say something bad about me. Toxicity is not an argument to double down and tape people's mouths because someone is offended over something highly specific. Sometimes even out of context admittedly; we don't know.

If I start taking seriously all the things I have been called in life, I should be hanging from a noose by now. Surround yourself with like-minded people if it helps.

[Izscha]

Surround yourself with like-minded people if it helps.

They do and that's exactly why so much are so thin skinned.

[LittleImp]

Early pulling hunts isn't unique to WoW refugees. The Hunt community has, for many years, been populated by some of the most bizarre players the community has to offer. There have been hunt sniping wars between servers for years, long before the big WoW influx.

The Hunt community is a bit like the BA community; Both are fairly casual pieces of content that allow clout-chasers to assume a position of influence over other people trying to access the content due to their format. This stuff really came to the surface when Cross-World originally dropped; A bunch of the weird hunt power-tripper types came out of the woodwork to whine about their influence decreasing. the old 'hunt captain' of one server I played on used to run around spamming in shout chat "THE INVADERS ARE COMING" any time a cross-server train came to our server lol. I think he started going to other servers and sniping their hunts in "retaliation".

Come to think of it, I've actually seen more drama in the hunt community than in the raiding community, which is funny considering the otherwise extremely low stakes of hunts.

[Bacent]

I could name people from back in the 2.X days that were hunt trolls and did everything they could with their friends to ruin it for others (One warrior, 6 ninjas, one white mage. Stupid high aggro building/boss moving and resetting). This is literally nothing new. Just report and move on.