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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    Why would you delay three events when you can just delay one? And of the three, all saints' wake is the least time sensitive, with Heavensturn being the most time sensitive.
    Because even if it's not based on Halloween, it's a festival themed around the harvest and Eorzea has shown to roughly follow the same seasons as Earth. So their harvest would be before their snowfall. It doesn't really make sense for them to have their harvest festival in the middle of winter.
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    Eorzea also has a very flexible notion of the passage of time. It's still only five years or so after the Calamity, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Because even if it's not based on Halloween, it's a festival themed around the harvest and Eorzea has shown to roughly follow the same seasons as Earth. So their harvest would be before their snowfall. It doesn't really make sense for them to have their harvest festival in the middle of winter.
    Is the Eorzean event a harvest festival? I thought it was primarily driven by the spooky circus coming to town, regardless of whether they come in autumn or some other time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Kinda wish they'd moved Starlight instead, but I freely admit that that's just because the sheer vitriol that would come from moving the Christmas event away from Christmas would be hilarious. I'm a jerk.
    It's gonna be weird to have snow weather at city state and housing area that isn't December lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Because even if it's not based on Halloween, it's a festival themed around the harvest and Eorzea has shown to roughly follow the same seasons as Earth. So their harvest would be before their snowfall. It doesn't really make sense for them to have their harvest festival in the middle of winter.
    I don't know about that. The name of the event itself does not relate to harvest at all, though I suppose the pumpkin would be the part of the harvest theme. Then again, a "wake" is fine for a winter theme, which is the dead season, including dead pumpkins.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Is the Eorzean event a harvest festival? I thought it was primarily driven by the spooky circus coming to town, regardless of whether they come in autumn or some other time.
    There's that too, I suppose.

    Honestly, while I know the social reasons for it, this is why I'd rather in-game seasonal events have less to do with real life events.

    That's why...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Kinda wish they'd moved Starlight instead, but I freely admit that that's just because the sheer vitriol that would come from moving the Christmas event away from Christmas would be hilarious. I'm a jerk.
    I'd be fine with this if a delay is needed for Starlight. It's just that, once again, if they don't need to delay it, then there's no need to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Is the Eorzean event a harvest festival? I thought it was primarily driven by the spooky circus coming to town, regardless of whether they come in autumn or some other time.
    Adding to this, even if taken at face value. That same argument could be applied to Starlight and Heavensturm, especially the latter which centers around the zodiac animals. So we're right back to where we started, delaying three seasonal events instead of one that has already missed it's date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    It's being delayed because the files and data for the event won't be uploaded to the game servers until early access launches. There's no maintenance planned until then, and they'd have to take the game down to force a version update. Thematically it's already too late at that point to run ASW and they'll want everyone to play the new MSQ anyways, so the most acceptable solution to the devs was to place it after Heavensturn and before Valentione's.
    There's also the fact we usually get some expansions NPCs as "skins" in ASW, and there're a chance that they already included 6.0 ones to the list.

    And since Heavensturn and Starlight don't cross with release dates, there's simply no need to push them later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Adding to this, even if taken at face value. That same argument could be applied to Starlight and Heavensturm, especially the latter which centers around the zodiac animals. So we're right back to where we started, delaying three seasonal events instead of one that has already missed it's date.
    Starlight is specifically a winter festival, and Heavensturn isn't just about "the zodiac" but an animal being chosen to rule the zodiac for the new year. So both are tied to their times of year and it's better to keep them in place.

    That said, I looked up the very first Saints' Wake event script and it does talk about being a harvest festival originally. Still, once it's been moved away from autumn it's no stranger whether it ends up in early winter or late winter or spring.
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    Well if they can do Christmas in July, then nothing wrong with Halloween in January.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    Why would you delay three events when you can just delay one? And of the three, all saints' wake is the least time sensitive, with Heavensturn being the most time sensitive.
    Why would heavensturn be more time sensitive than saint's?
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