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    Dude, most of your complains feel like you just invented reasons to complain about, or think it's a problem because it doesn't suit your taste. There is hardly a single "objective" point in any of your post.

    Especially your first point. If anything, that's probably the single most important improvement. What you call "player agency" are simply people are being forced to zombieing. Now people can throw their name in the hat and moving on and you know ... enjoying life, or the game without being forced to camp the place-card. Also people who refuse to bot are no longer at a major dis-advantage, people who can only play limited time of day is no longer at a dis-advantage, people who can not log in the game at work is no longer at a dis-advantage.

    If you call this is not fair, and also from your other point ... I guess the word "equity" and "fair" are not part of your vocabulary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Dude, most of your complains feel like you just invented reasons to complain about, or think it's a problem because it doesn't suit your taste. There is hardly a single "objective" point in any of your post.

    Especially your first point. If anything, that's probably the single most important improvement. What you call "player agency" are simply people are being forced to zombieing. Now people can throw their name in the hat and moving on and you know ... enjoying life, or the game without being forced to camp the place-card. Also people who refuse to bot are no longer at a major dis-advantage, people who can only play limited time of day is no longer at a dis-advantage, people who can not log in the game at work is no longer at a dis-advantage.

    If you call this is not fair, and also from your other point ... I guess the word "equity" and "fair" are not part of your vocabulary.
    Before I reply to you, which I will. Be honest, did you read my post in its entirety before you responded? I doubt you would be attempting to make the points you are, if you had read it.

    Also, if you're going to make the claim that all of my points aren't objective, please don't attempt to do so with your own subjective opinion.
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    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    The changes will make house buying even harder and worse. With only a handful of wards being lottery and the removal of relocation bypass, now everyone going for normal wards will be using auto clickers since there is no longer a risk of someone relocating and setting up a vendor. So if you are a console gamer you are guaranteed to never get a house.

    Either make all wards lottery or don't remove relocation bypass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    The changes will make house buying even harder and worse. With only a handful of wards being lottery and the removal of relocation bypass, now everyone going for normal wards will be using auto clickers since there is no longer a risk of someone relocating and setting up a vendor. So if you are a console gamer you are guaranteed to never get a house.

    Either make all wards lottery or don't remove relocation bypass.
    I'm confused on this bit. What is relocation bypass and how does it effect this?
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    Last edited by Xirean; 11-09-2021 at 11:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    The changes will make house buying even harder and worse. With only a handful of wards being lottery and the removal of relocation bypass, now everyone going for normal wards will be using auto clickers since there is no longer a risk of someone relocating and setting up a vendor. So if you are a console gamer you are guaranteed to never get a house.

    Either make all wards lottery or don't remove relocation bypass.
    How will an auto clicker help when, iirc, you can only go in on ONE(1) lottery at a time? And if the person who wins the lottery doesn't build their house in time, a new lottery will start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    How will an auto clicker help when, iirc, you can only go in on ONE(1) lottery at a time? And if the person who wins the lottery doesn't build their house in time, a new lottery will start.
    SE said that they may leave some wards first come first serve while the rest would be subject to a lottery, but they would also be taking feedback as to the direction players want them to go. They are talking about the first come first serve wards I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    SE said that they may leave some wards first come first serve while the rest would be subject to a lottery, but they would also be taking feedback as to the direction players want them to go. They are talking about the first come first serve wards I think.
    even then an auto clicker will do nothing, new wards have no random timer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    even then an auto clicker will do nothing, new wards have no random timer...
    That is true. Didn't think of that part. My brain is just used to having that timer around. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    even then an auto clicker will do nothing, new wards have no random timer...
    I'm not talking about the lottery wards nor new wards. I'm talking about first come first serve once a plot gets autodemolished or relinquished.

    Now without the fear of someone relocating and setting up a vendor 100% of the PC audience will be using autoclickers for this since winning via the lottery wards will be near impossible.

    Thus console gamers are guaranteed to never be able to get a house once these changes hit live. Might as well completely remove access to housing wards from console and reduce the game file size.
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    Last edited by lezard21; 11-09-2021 at 06:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    SE said that they may leave some wards first come first serve while the rest would be subject to a lottery, but they would also be taking feedback as to the direction players want them to go. They are talking about the first come first serve wards I think.
    Huh, if that was in the live letter, it must have been after I had gone to bed.
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