square enix repeting the same mistakes as WOW?

[TheMightyMollusk]

Warlords wasnt unfinished because it was rushed, Warlords was unfinished because management decided to change the focus of the expansion when it was 75% done in creation causing an unfinished experience.

It was hardcore mismanaged.

I didn't say it was unfinished because it was rushed, just that it was unfinished and rushed. They could've delayed it to finish things, but they forced it through anyway. Look at all the terrible responses that got, and it makes it easier to see why a two-week delay isn't so bad now.

[Y2K21]

I didn't say it was unfinished because it was rushed, just that it was unfinished and rushed. They could've delayed it to finish things, but they forced it through anyway. Look at all the terrible responses that got, and it makes it easier to see why a two-week delay isn't so bad now.

They could have -- but on the other hand, the game would have been delayed by a year minimum to compensate for the management design change that late in development. That was never going to happen, which is why they basically immediately cut their losses and double time worked on Legion -- which is why 6.1 was literally "heres Twitter integration".

[DeaconMoore]

They could have -- but on the other hand, the game would have been delayed by a year minimum to compensate for the management design change that late in development. That was never going to happen, which is why they basically immediately cut their losses and double time worked on Legion -- which is why 6.1 was literally "heres Twitter integration".

Yeah and that's why they went in 6 months from OMG we're back to over 10 million subs to less than the 5+ million that Mists of Pandaria had at the end of a 14 month content drought and forever since stopped reporting sub numbers.

[Y2K21]

guessing Blizzard must be your fave game? Sorry to break it to you, but the reason Blizzard could announce a missed date a month ahead of time is actually a prominent sign of poor time management. Its not a last minute bug that popped, its the simple fact that given the work they had left to do, and the number of people playing Call of Duty or harassing their employees, there was no way they could complete it in time.

Im guessing you missed the *grabs bag of popcorn* thing afterwards with trolling sarcasm. But yea, Blizzard is a mess of mismanagement -- like a few companies I know of. Heck, recently Jagex is getting reamed again for their changes again in OSRS.

Its just fun to see.

Yoshi-P doesnt believe major issues in a release are there to be fixed in a future patch like Blizzard. thats something he set out for his team since the start, fix it now and fix it right

Which is fine, and no one is debating that.

so yes, FFxiv needed a fix, of something, they decided they could implement and fix but would need 2 extra weeks. Blizzrd likely didnt even have a playable release candidate so could more easily tell you weeks in advance that you wouldnt get it on time.

No they did have a playable release candidate -- PTR exists, the issue was the amount of complaints and bugs made it very rough at that time. They delayed it (much needed) for that to release questionably better later. I think in terms of FF, they want to stress test because they dont want the game to literally eat itself when it comes to servers -- because server stability has long long been an issue.

Yeah and that's why they went in 6 months from OMG we're back to over 10 million subs to less than the 5+ million that Mists of Pandaria had at the end of a 14 month content drought and forever since stopped reporting sub numbers.

Blizzard never officially reported reported the numbers after WoD. The 10 million number comes from a Polish magazine interview with Tom Chilton; which even that number is questionable because Legion only sold 3.3 million copies by its launch. So that number seems very suspicious. I dont believe it personally.