Endwalker Housing Update

[Jojoya]

The relocation timer should stay in place as it is now, but put a cooldown on it. Say 90-120 days until you can relocate once again.

I think the real question about the new Ishgard wards is are they going to be "Ready for Purchase" upon release so therefore no timers? Is it all going to be lottery?

Also, what about all of the people that ranked for Firmament Restoration? Do we get any special perks for obtaining the Saint title for Ishgard housing? Priority maybe? Most of us worked harder and longer than it would take for clicking on a placard and beating the invisible timer.

They haven't made a decision regarding how many wards will remain First Come First Serve.

To be honest, with relocation no longer bypassing the purchase timer they might as well all be lottery. Any wards left First Come First Serve will leave players desperate for a house feeling like they must still continue to camp to improve their chances even if they have an entry pending in a lottery ward. The FCFS wards would represent multiple opportunities to acquire a plot during each lottery period while the lottery itself is only a single opportunity per lottery period.

No perks/advantages for those of us who were on the leaderboards during the Restoration, and that's how it should be. Someone's ability to purchase a plot shouldn't be contingent on being a crafter/gatherer.

If there are any FCFS wards in Ishgard when plots become available for purchase in 6.1, I would imagine it would be the same as the past. No timer for very first purchase then timer will kick in when a plot is relinquished/demolished.

Do we yet have an answer on if a FC as a whole can only make a single bid for a single plot, a single bid on as many plots as they have funds for, each in a FC getting one bid for a single plot, or each player in a FC getting a single bid on as many plots as they have funds for?

No more specifics on how the lottery will work have been released since the live letter. I don't expect to get the details until a couple of weeks before 6.1 is released. I doubt very much they want to give players months to figure out ways to game the system and prepare.

If you can do any of these people better get their diamond pickaxes ready. Salt mines are going to be ready to blow LOL.

Salt mines will be ready to blow regardless. People are still going to be unhappy when they still don't have a house because the lottery isn't a fix to the core system problems.

Personally I don't have a problem with allowing multiple FC members to purchase entries on behalf of a FC. The FC still has to come up with all the gil for each of those entries (which will be rare for most FCs) and having 10 chances out of 200 entries still means 190 out of 200 chances to lose.

[Divinemights]

At least someone admits, that it's like forecasting weather by throwing bones, taking 10 of them away and tell results from the rest.
Late edit: Sure, goes for both sides, to be fully fair.

You are just repackaging the same ideas.
This is whole reason why people are "forecasting" because no one has the correct numbers on demand, including SE.
Forecasting is business practices "attempting" to estimate the demand.
Of course you can forecasting differently than us but it certainly doesn't mean you are correct either.

Take a guess, who in this game has most man power and gils available to bid on all open plots once Ishard plots are occupied?
It will never be those large FC and it will always be RMT with army of characters and gil bank.
Japanese side is already expecting RMT to gain control over most of empty plots
I just don't know why there are so many NA is so optimistic about this lottery system at all.

[SanadaX]

I just don't know why there are so many NA is so optimistic about this lottery system at all.

Because it is freshly wrapped donkey nards. Like I was telling the other guy, people feel like they have a real chance! Once you take the wrapping off you realize everyone has been funneled into the worst part of the housing which is "May the odds be ever in your favor" placard clicking. Lottery has it worse because people are going to just drop the money and go back to questing or what have you.. and with the increase of players across every server... Better chances winning the cactpot... Salt mines finna pop.

[Dewslam]

I just don't know why there are so many NA is so optimistic about this lottery system at all.

Honestly everyone I know is only excited about it because it just takes out the hours of manual time investment. No more having to sit there and click at the placard only to lose it to a bot or relocator. Instead, now you can actually play the game and then the lottery will inform you you've lost it to a bot or relocator.

[Divinemights]

Honestly everyone I know is only excited about it because it just takes out the hours of manual time investment. No more having to sit there and click at the placard only to lose it to a bot or relocator. Instead, now you can actually play the game and then the lottery will inform you you've lost it to a bot or relocator.

It is fine, and honestly this actually give me a shot for switch from Medium to Mansion plot.
There must be a lot Mansion size plot empty after Ishard release and I have spare gils to make few bids.

[Illmaeran]

Because it is freshly wrapped donkey nards.

LOL, I haven't seen/heard nards in forever. Thank you for the trip down memory lane.


This may not be a popular opinion, but I'm just fine with the lottery/raffle mechanism. I gave placard camping a serious go a few times and said "stuff it" when relocators took them after many hours of clicking. I haven't had a house since Stormblood released and have found that not having one hasn't significantly reduced my enjoyment of the game. Yeah, it would be nice to have for all the reasons they're nice to have, but an apartment scratches the majority of those itches.

I get the strong desire to have a house among first-time buyers; I was incredibly excited to get my house and spend All. The. Hours. And. Gil. decorating it just right. Having a private place to chill and craft in was awesome, no doubt about it. Even though it was purely cosmetic and didn't impact core gameplay, having my own tiny space in Eorzea was cool and got me invested in the story and world more than I was previously since I was now an inhabitant and not just a gamer moving an avatar around.

After losing that house, getting another one and losing that too, then getting an apartment, the luster's worn off and having a stand-alone house isn't as exciting any longer. Having the option to toss a ticket in the pot, get on with my life, and "if I get it, great, if not, no worries" will work just fine for me. If I don't get one, I've still got my apartment and eventually an Island Sanctuary to derp around with.

[Jojoya]

This may not be a popular opinion, but I'm just fine with the lottery/raffle mechanism. I gave placard camping a serious go a few times and said "stuff it" when relocators took them after many hours of clicking. I haven't had a house since Stormblood released and have found that not having one hasn't significantly reduced my enjoyment of the game. Yeah, it would be nice to have for all the reasons they're nice to have, but an apartment scratches the majority of those itches.

My big complaint is they're just changing the "flavor" of RNG that controls the limited access to houses instead of addressing the access to houses. It should have been clear to them when houses first sold out on most worlds back at the end of Heavensward that the ward system would never be able to keep up with demand as the player base grew. That was almost 5 years ago. Certainly I know that development of systems in MMOs can be very time consuming but they already had the backbone of a housing system in place to work from. We should be seeing more at this point than just "here, have a lottery".

The changes at least make it more difficult to flip houses but they won't prevent it unless they make the new member period an excessively long period of time (like 6 months or more) and I don't see them doing that because it could cause problems for new but legitimate FCs starting out if the FC leader has a real life emergency. They may have been better off setting a waiting period for new FCs to purchase a house since getting to rank 6 for the purchase entitlement can be done in a few hours. Not that I disagree with the new member period in general - that will be a help when it comes to FC theft due to account compromise if SE can't get the rank permissions straightened out.

[OtakuMage]

No more specifics on how the lottery will work have been released since the live letter. I don't expect to get the details until a couple of weeks before 6.1 is released. I doubt very much they want to give players months to figure out ways to game the system and prepare.

Okay, just wanted to check I wasn't missing anything. My FC is new (few months old) and has the funds for multiple Small Plot bids but if we only get one shot total that would suck. What SE really need to do is make more Wards so there's not such a housing shortage.

[FrogDog]

To be honest, with relocation no longer bypassing the purchase timer they might as well all be lottery. Any wards left First Come First Serve will leave players desperate for a house feeling like they must still continue to camp to improve their chances even if they have an entry pending in a lottery ward. The FCFS wards would represent multiple opportunities to acquire a plot during each lottery period while the lottery itself is only a single opportunity per lottery period.

This. Without the freedom of instant relocations to trade up to more desirable or larger plots, I don't see a reason at all to have anything outside of the lottery. FCFS is just going to be left almost entirely to auto-clickers and the FC reselling market. Better to just give average players a chance at the full stock of available housing.

[ForteNightshade]

This. Without the freedom of instant relocations to trade up to more desirable or larger plots, I don't see a reason at all to have anything outside of the lottery. FCFS is just going to be left almost entirely to auto-clickers and the FC reselling market. Better to just give average players a chance at the full stock of available housing.

Because the free-for-all method will remain better odds for those with the time to essentially waste clicking. I'd rather throw away nine hours trying to win a click war than enter a lottery with 1,000 other players and have .01% of winning said lottery.