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  1. #21
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    Adding to derail: German version goes with the term for young man as well, hinting at him being anywhere from 18 to 27. He was younger than most of the Convocation, but that was about it. We see in Amaurot that Amaurotines act way different when addressing actual children.
    Him being that small after Seat of Sacrifice is most likely clever symbolism of how much of 'him' was lost over the years as Zodiark's heart.
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    I'm going to add the final point to that derail and point out Elidibus is also called a young man in the French version, implying late teens at least.

    Is the final sentence before the title drop actually Fandaniel for the FR version? It's slightly different.
    In the JP version, you can clearly say those are different voices and since FR version is more than often closer to the JP version...

    It sounds closer to the guy standing in front of the garlemald flag in judge armor (around 2:20)
    Very much agree with this, if you play the two lines back to back in Japanese it's clearly the same voice speaking, and it certainly isn't Emet or Asahi-Fandaniel.

    Speaking of, I can't say I identified Fandaniel's voice at any point in the trailer (playing with Japanese VA), but there is indeed the possibility that he could at some point stop being (and sounding like) Asahi.

    The part about Zodiark, before the mysterious last line, is very much Elidibus in Japanese, unless I am having severe hallucinations.
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    I guess we can all agree that it's hard to clearly determine voices by just a single line, unless they are really distinctive. German Elidibus is one such distinctive voice and I definitely don't hear it in the trailer.

    It's especially difficult when the casting is based on similar characteristics, e.g. that voice that is clearly supposed to be a young girl and sounds similar to Ryne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldStarz View Post
    I would assume he's closer to Alphinaud's age honestly, partially because if he's G'raha's age it feels less noteworthy and partially because it feels like there's a lot of parallels between him and Alphinaud with them both being very staunch idealists who look up to their coworkers, especially the one who goes out and helps other people at their own behest.
    We don't know his exact "age". The implication based on the wording and visuals is that Elidibus was significantly younger/inexperienced compared to the rest of the Convocation. While his job was significant, the rest of the members viewed him as a protégé of sorts.

    To add to this, there are actually two versions of "young man" in English. One version is literal, referring to a man who is young, in the context of defining a human male as an "adult", 18+ usually. The other term does refer to a child. This is probably why the term is confusing in English, as they aren't two distinct terms like in other languages. The same is true for the term young lady. Though it's easier to distinguish since most people say young woman when referring to an actual adult. The main distinction between the terms is being literal or being figurative.

    On a different note, the little girls voice we hear sounds like it could be Anima, since it plays during that scene in the trailer. It doesn't really sound like Ryne. We've heard her voice get "high" at times and it wasn't the same. Not saying it couldn't be the same VA though, I mean just look at Y'shtola and Titania, lol
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    I wouldn't assume it's Anima from the trailer, since those are known to throw some red herrings and also use very different speakers from very different scenes over trailer footage. Unless this time is different to throw us off...
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    After looking at the trailer a few times, that voice from 1:50 is a deeper voice Tataru, she is playing a bigger part in EW and I think she is not a primal or Zodiark (Time for my tin hat)

    My theory about Tataru
    I think she is part of the Forum as a spy for them to keep them inform about the movements of the Scions and other business that affect them. She is very talented in many different ways and she has qualities of a spy. She could be feeding them with information about WOL. I just guess, I might be totally wrong about it but this is one possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekiUno View Post
    After looking at the trailer a few times, that voice from 1:50 is a deeper voice Tataru, she is playing a bigger part in EW and I think she is not a primal or Zodiark (Time for my tin hat)

    My theory about Tataru
    I think she is part of the Forum as a spy for them to keep them inform about the movements of the Scions and other business that affect them. She is very talented in many different ways and she has qualities of a spy. She could be feeding them with information about WOL. I just guess, I might be totally wrong about it but this is one possibility.
    But she wasn't apart of the Circle of Knowing part of the Scions, she was from the Path of the Twelve part. It would be weird if the forum just sent a spy to scope out some random religious group and then somehow got mixed up with a bunch of Sharlayan scholars who do activities that the Forum probably doesn't approve of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldStarz View Post
    But she wasn't apart of the Circle of Knowing part of the Scions, she was from the Path of the Twelve part. It would be weird if the forum just sent a spy to scope out some random religious group and then somehow got mixed up with a bunch of Sharlayan scholars who do activities that the Forum probably doesn't approve of.
    I don't agree with the theory, but playing devil's advocate, that actually kinda makes sense if you assume Sharlayan has some connection to Venat/Hydaelyn (who would be aware of Minfilia's significance, whatever it ends up being). Unless we're just thinking Minfilia has no larger relevance to the plot besides "Got taken by Hydaelyn once and then went to the first". If Minfilia was important to Hydaelyn and Hydaelyn had a connection to Sharlayan then you might see Sharlayan send a spy to Minfilia's side. It's a silly theory though and obviously there's zero evidence for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    I don't agree with the theory, but playing devil's advocate, that actually kinda makes sense if you assume Sharlayan has some connection to Venat/Hydaelyn (who would be aware of Minfilia's significance, whatever it ends up being). Unless we're just thinking Minfilia has no larger relevance to the plot besides "Got taken by Hydaelyn once and then went to the first". If Minfilia was important to Hydaelyn and Hydaelyn had a connection to Sharlayan then you might see Sharlayan send a spy to Minfilia's side. It's a silly theory though and obviously there's zero evidence for it.
    I know that the theory is very silly (that why i said tin-foil hat) but the one thing about this game is that everything is on the table
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    Could middle new voice be Ryne?

    For that last part that is Emet: In German, it's Fandaniel who is speaking. Since he adresses Zodiark before, it creates a conflict with the English Trailer. In German, Fandaniel is just a contradiction, both begging Zodiark to bring back better days while questioning the destruction of the current(?) world. I'm only 80% certain though.
    The voice at the 1:50 mark is more than likely Cirina Mol. She's in the trailer at the 1:18 mark alongside Lucia, Maxima, and I believe Sadu in the back right along with some Alliance NPCs in Garlemald. Here's the voice clip in the Launch Trailer:

    Clipped Voice in Launch Trailer

    Here's a youtube video of our introduction to Cirina in Stormblood (credit to Aurora Gamer for the video):

    Cirina in Stormblood

    Her English VA is Jaimi Barbakoff. She also voices Beq Lugg in Shadowbringers.

    The line between Fandaniel and Emet is maybe Fourchenault, but since he's yelling the line and not speaking plainly, it's kind of hard to tell:

    Clip of yelling voice

    Fourchenalt speaking

    Fourchenault English VA is Anthony Howell for reference.
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