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    You got 2 choices OP:

    1. Get the game on the original release date and complain it won't let you log in for 5 hours and every time you enter a zone or a dungeon your game lags then crashes.
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    2. Wait until the later release date and have a more stable game that's actually playable and needs less maintenance work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    You got 2 choices OP:

    1. Get the game on the original release date and complain it won't let you log in for 5 hours and every time you enter a zone or a dungeon your game lags then crashes.
    or
    2. Wait until the later release date and have a more stable game that's actually playable and needs less maintenance work.
    That doesn't change the fact that the game should've released in a stable way in the first place, lol. It's SE fault for not being able to manage their time right as likable as Yoshi is. I mean i have also empathy for the team and i don't mind whenever it will release but that doesn't mean that it wasn't a mistake on their end and bad time management which affects now tens of thousands of players in a rather bad way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that the game should've released in a stable way in the first place, lol. It's SE fault for not being able to manage their time right as likable as Yoshi is. I mean i have also empathy for the team and i don't mind whenever it will release but that doesn't mean that it wasn't a mistake on their end and bad time management which affects now tens of thousands of players in a rather bad way.
    My husband has worked as a programmer for 30 years. He's been in 3 different companies and they all set release dates for their products. Sometimes though things go badly unexpectantly and they have to unavoidably delay release dates. Is that bad time management? No, it's called @!#? happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    My husband has worked as a programmer for 30 years. He's been in 3 different companies and they all set release dates for their products. Sometimes though things go badly unexpectantly and they have to unavoidably delay release dates. Is that bad time management? No, it's called @!#? happens.
    That is a common misconception though as people often tend to confuse their relationships with companies. We are customers. We want their product in a hopefully flawless way. We don't work there, the maintenance of their product and that it is available is not our responsibility. SE is not our friend, they want our money cause otherwise obviously they can't survive.

    So yes, you are allowed to be dissatisfied as a customer if something goes wrong. If a plumber called you on the day you took off work and expected them to come cause your house is drowning since a pipe broke you would also be rather upset the said plumber told you they need to reschedule cause reason XYZ. It is not your responsibility to empathize with the service you pay for no matter what the reason for any problem that might occur be.

    And this isn't some "the customer is always right" stuff and sure you also need to see the staff as what they are, humans. They make mistakes and there will always be stuff that can't be foreseen but that doesn't mean that you as the customer have to just blindly accept it.

    The problem with most gaming companies isn't that stuff happens that they couldn't have foreseen. It's that they want to release as soon as possible cause that is what generates profit no matter the cost. So maybe they learn from this mistake and just give it next time the extra month so there aren't that many crunch hours and people can have a good and relaxed release. It is sad that gaming companies nowdays have to buckle down to the hurry hurry mentality that reigns on the market to push their products out as soon as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    That is a common misconception though as people often tend to confuse their relationships with companies. We are customers. We want their product in a hopefully flawless way. We don't work there, the maintenance of their product and that it is available is not our responsibility. SE is not our friend, they want our money cause otherwise obviously they can't survive.

    So yes, you are allowed to be dissatisfied as a customer if something goes wrong. If a plumber called you on the day you took off work and expected them to come cause your house is drowning since a pipe broke you would also be rather upset the said plumber told you they need to reschedule cause reason XYZ. It is not your responsibility to empathize with the service you pay for no matter what the reason for any problem that might occur be.

    And this isn't some "the customer is always right" stuff and sure you also need to see the staff as what they are, humans. They make mistakes and there will always be stuff that can't be foreseen but that doesn't mean that you as the customer have to just blindly accept it.

    The problem with most gaming companies isn't that stuff happens that they couldn't have foreseen. It's that they want to release as soon as possible cause that is what generates profit no matter the cost. So maybe they learn from this mistake and just give it next time the extra month so there aren't that many crunch hours and people can have a good and relaxed release. It is sad that gaming companies nowdays have to buckle down to the hurry hurry mentality that reigns on the market to push their products out as soon as possible.
    I would have thought if you'd have a burst pipe and the plumber you arranged couldn't come, you'd be quickly on the phone to an alternative plumber.

    The dev team have managed to hit every release date for the past 8 years, and 18 months of this expansion development has been in a pandemic situation where they had to change how the business operates on the fly.

    They deserve a little bit of credit in the bank and good will for that alone in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that the game should've released in a stable way in the first place, lol. It's SE fault for not being able to manage their time right as likable as Yoshi is. I mean i have also empathy for the team and i don't mind whenever it will release but that doesn't mean that it wasn't a mistake on their end and bad time management which affects now tens of thousands of players in a rather bad way.
    you obviously have zero idea on how much bugs and software issues respect time management skills.

    there are multiple developers working on various things and if QA finds an issue, especially a game breaking one that would reset release date, then they assess if they can create a fix, put the fix in the code, and then QA the entire system before it can be released. if it cannot, then that means a delay.

    time management only works as an excuse to blame so far

    its a business, and they will take the route that inconveniences the least amount of players.. which in this case is a 2 week delay.
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