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  1. #191
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    I normally don't get in on stuff like this, but it is flat annoying. Everyone has a right to be annoyed and in fact, a right to be pissed off. We were told by a company a product WHICH THEY HAVE ALREADY TAKEN OUR MONEY FOR (this is kinda key), is getting delayed.

    Nothing else matters. Literally. If people wanna be pissed about this, then it is perfectly valid for a consumer to be upset.

    Personal story: I spent money from this pay period on 14 because I expected it on the 19th. It is now pushed back to what is in a different pay period December. I essentially threw $40 at nothing. I could have used that money this month for something else. A different game to bide my time. But nope, I got lied to. The reasons don't really matter. It is their job to provide the product on the specified day if they are confident enough to take my cash.

    Now, is it something worth freaking out over, not really. Not to me. But if it is enough to set someone else off, they are well within their rights to feel torched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Advantage is fair if you're willing to do something that most others aren't.

  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperSMB View Post
    I normally don't get in on stuff like this, but it is flat annoying. Everyone has a right to be annoyed and in fact, a right to be pissed off. We were told by a company a product WHICH THEY HAVE ALREADY TAKEN OUR MONEY FOR (this is kinda key), is getting delayed.

    Nothing else matters. Literally. If people wanna be pissed about this, then it is perfectly valid for a consumer to be upset.

    Personal story: I spent money from this pay period on 14 because I expected it on the 19th. It is now pushed back to what is in a different pay period December. I essentially threw $40 at nothing. I could have used that money this month for something else. A different game to bide my time. But nope, I got lied to. The reasons don't really matter. It is their job to provide the product on the specified day if they are confident enough to take my cash.

    Now, is it something worth freaking out over, not really. Not to me. But if it is enough to set someone else off, they are well within their rights to feel torched.
    If companies waited until they are 100% sure about a release date to announce it, they would not announce it before the game gets gold.
    You did not get lied to, they just had to change plans because of last minute impediments. That can happen in basically any type of project where a deadline is set. I worked on many IT projects and a lot of them got last minute delays.

    That said, yes, people should be upset. 100%. I think it is even fair to request a month of free subscription or something like that.
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  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnix View Post
    If companies waited until they are 100% sure about a release date to announce it, they would not announce it before the game gets gold.
    You did not get lied to, they just had to change plans because of last minute impediments. That can happen in basically any type of project where a deadline is set. I worked on many IT projects and a lot of them got last minute delays.

    That said, yes, people should be upset. 100%. I think it is even fair to request a month of free subscription or something like that.
    We can quibble over the use of lied, but I think it really comes down to something more fundamental. They took my money on an exchange. Now, personally, if you are confident enough to take my cash, you best as hell deliver.

    They did not. Compensation to alleviate my annoyance for their shirking would be welcome but I doubt it will come.

    We can both agree it isn't an end of the world deal for sure, it is just a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Advantage is fair if you're willing to do something that most others aren't.

  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalonBlades View Post
    I am writing this today, as SE made a very poor judgment, which effects many of us across the globe, and to this, will cause issues for far too many of us.
    December and January is a busy time for retail, and it requires full staff to avoid disruption. Many of us, kept our annual leave days, so we could play and enjoy the Endwalker story at its original release dats, this will now not happen, because of the bad decision to move it into the worst time of year for retail workers. Some like myslef won't be able to enjoy the story until at least February or March now, or to be able to keep up with savage raiding, will have to skip the story entirely, as of this poor new release.

    To counter this, and stop you ruining a lot of players fun and the want to enjoy the game and story properly, you need to either honour your original release date, or the release needs to be postponed until at least February or March 2020, so the whole player base can enjoy the story without rushing or skipping, to keep up with endgame progression.

    This is one of the worst decisions in SE history along with the making of "The Avengers" game.

    ...but we're in 2021...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  5. #195
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    First world problems, get over it . . .
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  6. #196
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    Jeez, the guy cried on stream and apologized repeatedly ... what else do you need ...
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraniel View Post
    Jeez, the guy cried on stream and apologized repeatedly ... what else do you need ...
    A sacrifice. Bring on the sacrificial Lalafells!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperSMB View Post
    I normally don't get in on stuff like this, but it is flat annoying. Everyone has a right to be annoyed and in fact, a right to be pissed off. We were told by a company a product WHICH THEY HAVE ALREADY TAKEN OUR MONEY FOR (this is kinda key), is getting delayed.

    Nothing else matters. Literally. If people wanna be pissed about this, then it is perfectly valid for a consumer to be upset.

    Personal story: I spent money from this pay period on 14 because I expected it on the 19th. It is now pushed back to what is in a different pay period December. I essentially threw $40 at nothing. I could have used that money this month for something else. A different game to bide my time. But nope, I got lied to. The reasons don't really matter. It is their job to provide the product on the specified day if they are confident enough to take my cash.

    Now, is it something worth freaking out over, not really. Not to me. But if it is enough to set someone else off, they are well within their rights to feel torched.
    Definition of a lie:
    "a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth"

    Needing more time to ensure the game is able to function properly is no where near a deliberate intent to deceive or otherwise intentionally mislead.

    Likewise, I don't understand why you want a buggy game launch. It's rare for a company these days to take the backlash to release a game in a fully playable state. Have you seen how buggy Far Cry 6 is? That game needed a good QA delay but why bother, Ubisoft can just fix it after they got people's money. See that feels more deceptive to me.
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    Just means a shorter login in que for the rest of us
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    I have one thing I like to ask. Why people here defending the game as if they're life depends on it? It's just a game as you say,no? Do I miss something? Now if SE was more nice to the costumers they give a small compensation for this. Lots 9f scamy f2p games do this.
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