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    Katie_Kitty's Avatar
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    A 2nd charge of assize would definitely be more awesome than divine benison.
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    Shiru Elysia
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    There's not much to debate.

    Assize should definitly get a 2nd charge.

    - Because of WHM few aoe oGCD capabiliy
    - Because Assize is an awesome and versatile tool yet so rigid in its usage because of the short CD
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    Nemene Damendar
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    So what if it makes WHM do more damage than the others, in the unlikely event that it does? Scholar and Astro regularly outdamage WHM by a hilarious margin, and if Assize somehow ends up tipping that balance it won't matter because every single time WHM has any material advantage over the other healers, no matter how small, ever, they bitch and moan that the more complex healers "deserve" to be more powerful, and they get buffed into being directly superior choices by the next minor patch.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    This is one of the strengths Sage has over WHM. It's version of assize has 2 charges - so you can reserve one for burst windows - and it's higher potency. In addition to everything else being markedly higher potency as well. Sage is going to hit like a truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    This is one of the strengths Sage has over WHM. It's version of assize has 2 charges - so you can reserve one for burst windows - and it's higher potency. In addition to everything else being markedly higher potency as well. Sage is going to hit like a truck.
    Well, that is a pretty controversial opinion, because sage has global to use. Theoretically, it is only 180 potencies more than their basic nuke. Sage has the weakest burst windows out of healers because their main damage comes from the basic nuke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    Well, that is a pretty controversial opinion, because sage has global to use. Theoretically, it is only 180 potencies more than their basic nuke. Sage has the weakest burst windows out of healers because their main damage comes from the basic nuke.
    Well. 2x510 potency for the burst window and 1x510 for every burst window after that, since having 2 charges means you can keep the CD rolling while also keeping 1 in reserve. vs 400 from assize, which will only hit burst windows by happenstance. Both skills have the same CD.

    Then 330 potency on the main nuke, vs 310 from WHM and less from the others.

    Highest potency DoT too (Tied with scholar, WHM and AST are less).

    I stand by what I said: Sage is going to hit like a truck.

    (And because someone will inevitably say it - yes, I know dev build potencies are subject to change. Do you really think SE is going to do anything drastic to them before launch, though?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
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    That's exactly why their burst window is weak because consistent damage is good.

    during the burst, Sage can only use that extra skill 1 - 2 times and that is 180 - 360 extra potency during burst window relatively Nonburst window

    WHM have POM + Assize + potentially misery

    AST have cards + Divination + earthly star

    SCH has Chain Stratagem + Energy drains + Dissipation

    If all healers have somewhat the same balanced DPS, realistically thinking Sage should have the weakest burst window.
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    What would even be the point? Stuff like Essential dignity makes sense to stock and spend but assize? I figured Tertra would make the most sense even if I personally feel the devs are going abit overboard on charges
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    Nemene Damendar
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    It'd be a huge boon to WHM since they have the worst free AOE healing by a massive margin. Assize as it stands is a significant damage and mana loss to sit on for the heal portion. Asylum is on a longer cooldown than Sacred Soil and CU and the total potency-over-uptime is worse. Lilybell has a memeworthy long cooldown for how inflexible it is. And to top it all off, it has fewer of them than the other healers. Assize's fatal weakness is that it's an ever-increasing ugly damage loss every second its cooldown isn't ticking. A second charge completely alleviates this, because you can hold an activation while it's cooling down. It makes the notoriously inflexible healer less clunky, feel less terrible to optimize, and more newbie friendly. It's a change that would benefit Sylphie and veteran alike. It's such an easy, elegant solution that the fact the devs thought Divine freaking Benison needed it more shows just how little the job designers know about how healers play.
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