Whats up with pali?

[Sililos]

So for the first time since ARR i decided to look at my 50 Pali.
It was a switch over from trying GNB since i heard Pali is easier

With my Gnb i had been doing Command missions to try and get some confidence to try leveling roulettes and found it pretty easy over all, had no hiccups or wipes.

Today I tried the same thing with my Pali... first Pharos... wiped on the first boss, my Squad healer couldn't keep me up and the adds were spawning nonstop so overwhelmed us.
Ok i thought, try something easier, so i went with Aurum Vale, Second boss, flattened me.
Gave it another try and scraped by the skin of my teeth, my GNB walked over this with the healer keeping up.
First trash pack after that boss? Flattened again. Once more i couldn't mitigate enough damage for my healer to keep me up, once again something that was effortless with my GNB.

I really dont know whats going wrong here? With Pali I run out of defense move quickly and Sheltron barely does anything, but even without defensives my GNB handled things fine, Youi cant tell me a Pali decked out in a full set of Bahamut gear cant tank Aurum Vale of all places?

After looking at guides etc i honestly cant find what im doing wrong, Why am i getting flattened when i play pali in level appropriate content?

[Vahlnir]

By the sound of things there are some important mechanics that you are missing, perhaps because you are learning another job. It's somewhat difficult to juggle boss mechanics and job mechanics sometimes, especially if you are still trying to learn said job.

[Sililos]

Naa im well aware of the mechanics and pulling it all off. I just keep dropping regardless.
I just tried a fate and even my healer focused Chocobo couldn't keep up with the damage i was taking with defensives up.

*Edit* pretty much using Sentinel and Rampart on cooldown with no crossover.
Sheltron every chance i can.
Seeing damage mitigation from moves of about 18% across the board.

[Vahlnir]

Naa im well aware of the mechanics and pulling it all off. I just keep dropping regardless.
I just tried a fate and even my healer focused Chocobo couldn't keep up with the damage i was taking with defensives up.

*Edit* pretty much using Sentinel and Rampart on cooldown with no crossover.
Sheltron every chance i can.
Seeing damage mitigation from moves of about 18% across the board.

PLD is very good at keeping themselves alive so I'm not really sure what you tell you then.

[Sililos]

I think thats in large due to Devine veil and Clemency which I dont get until 56 and 58, at this stage, no self heals.
Sentinel has a huge cooldown, There is hallowed Ground but also on a massive cooldown.

I had thought Sheltron was supposed to block incoming damage? For me its blocking a very small portion instead, weaker than the other moves.

[SenorPatty]

Just sounds like you were having bad runs is all. Maybe you executed mechs properly but your party members didn't? It's easy to drop if your healer's not healing and/or dead.

As for fates, depends on what kind of fate you were doing too. Also, how well is your choco healing you?

Like Vahlnir said, PLD does a pretty good job defensively at lvl 50. Heck, just having access to HG at that level--and doing duties in that level--gives it a slight edge over the other tanks.

[Sililos]

Yeah i think my Shelton is bugged. Its not blocking damage, just did some tests to be sure.

[DeaconMoore]

So for the first time since ARR i decided to look at my 50 Pali.
It was a switch over from trying GNB since i heard Pali is easier

With my Gnb i had been doing Command missions to try and get some confidence to try leveling roulettes and found it pretty easy over all, had no hiccups or wipes.

Today I tried the same thing with my Pali... first Pharos... wiped on the first boss, my Squad healer couldn't keep me up and the adds were spawning nonstop so overwhelmed us.
Ok i thought, try something easier, so i went with Aurum Vale, Second boss, flattened me.
Gave it another try and scraped by the skin of my teeth, my GNB walked over this with the healer keeping up.
First trash pack after that boss? Flattened again. Once more i couldn't mitigate enough damage for my healer to keep me up, once again something that was effortless with my GNB.

I really dont know whats going wrong here? With Pali I run out of defense move quickly and Sheltron barely does anything, but even without defensives my GNB handled things fine, Youi cant tell me a Pali decked out in a full set of Bahamut gear cant tank Aurum Vale of all places?

After looking at guides etc i honestly cant find what im doing wrong, Why am i getting flattened when i play pali in level appropriate content?

broken gear?

[Tranquilmelody7]

Just sounds like you were having bad runs is all. Maybe you executed mechs properly but your party members didn't? It's easy to drop if your healer's not healing and/or dead.

As for fates, depends on what kind of fate you were doing too. Also, how well is your choco healing you?

Like Vahlnir said, PLD does a pretty good job defensively at lvl 50. Heck, just having access to HG at that level--and doing duties in that level--gives it a slight edge over the other tanks.

I'm going to have go ahead and disagree here.
Paladin is possibly the worst tank for ARR, as they the only TANK that doesn't have a heal baked into their rotation.

10 seconds of invulnerability every 7 minutes doesn't mean much if all the other Tanks have access their own invulnerability skills at that level with shorter CDs(Albeit, all with their own drawbacks).


No idea what the OP is experiencing though, as Shelltron alone is still more than a capable CD on it's own for general content.

[SilverObi]

Yeah i think my Shelton is bugged. Its not blocking damage, just did some tests to be sure.

Something like that would need screenshots and to be submitted to the Bug Report forums.