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    Midgarsormr

    Any relation to Midgar? Or the Midgar Zolom?

    Anyways, what the heck is this guy? Why did we fight him? Why is there Magitek Robots here?

    What did he do to us? Are we no longer bound to Hydaelyn? He took the power of our crystals and what... Became a minion??

    Da heck does all of this mean? Is he stronger than Hydaelyn? Is he a primal? Is Hydaelyn a primal?

    Why does he hate Ishgard?
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    Without getting into post-A Realm Reborn spoiler territory...

    Midgardsormr's name is a reference to the World Serpent from Norse mythology—a snake so massive that it is coiled around the world itself. He has no relation to Final Fantasy 7's Midgar or Midgar Zolom, save for those names coming from Norse mythology as well.

    He's the progenitor (read: super dad) of all dragons on Hydaelyn. You fought him because he attacked you. There are Magitek Robots there because the XIVth Legion (Gaius van Windbag's men) controlled the island you fought him on.

    He sealed the Blessing of Light, preventing you from using it. You still have it, it's just dormant.

    He might be stronger than Hydaelyn. He is probably not a primal.

    And as for why he hates Ishgard, you'll find out in Heavensward.
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    Keep playing the MSQ for answers.

    And no, he isn't related to Midgard, but to Norse Mythology where Midgardsomr is the great serpent. (FF VII drew a lot from Norse Mythology, Midgard is the realm of humans, Niflheim the underworld, for example.)

    There are Magitek soldiers bc his corpse is slung around an old Garlean vessel, and the Garleans try to get some supplies/materials from there.
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    So he's dead? We fought his corpse? Does he have any beef with the Garleans?
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    He's not dead, he has beef with any who would threaten Hydaelyn

    But as the other guy said just keep playing, a lot of questions that the story raises are also questions that the story answers later on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvresse View Post
    So he's dead? We fought his corpse? Does he have any beef with the Garleans?
    Pre 1.0, he and some other dragons fought the Garleans when they tried to invade Eorzea in the Battle of Silver Tear Lake, which ended with him succeeding in driving them off. However, his body was slung around that one vessel (Agrius), and when the Ceruleum tanks of that one exploded, he got caught in the blast as well and went down, but while his body is more or less dead, you have seen he isn't that much dead yet. But the battle isn't much referenced in ARR except very early on from Gaius, so it isn't much of a spoiler.
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    Supermassive spoilers - click at your own risk.
    Midgardsormr has no relationship to Midgar or the Midgar Zolom in this game, seeing as neither exist. The name is drawn from Norse myth - "Midgar Zolom" is just a bad translation of Midgardsormr.

    Midgardsormr is essentially a spirit dragon, a being beyond the cycle of life and death, who serves Hydaelyn as part of a pact he made with her in exchange for sanctuary for his children. He came from a faraway planet, being chased by Omega (a series staple killer robot). You fight Midgardsormr in the "Keeper of the Lake" dungeon because he's annoyed you came to his abode. The magitek robots are there because the Keeper of the Lake is the crashed Garlean flagship Agruis, and Gaius' rogue XIVth Legion maintains a token presence there even after his downfall.

    Midgardsormr seals away the Blessing of Light under the grounds that the Ascians are deliberately trying to overwhelm and exhaust its power. This (in story anyway) does diminish the PC's power for a time.

    It's unclear if he's stronger than Hydaelyn... but as her servant, if she were able to act freely probably not. He is not a primal, but Hydaelyn is.

    Midgardsormr hates Ishgard because they settled on Dravanian (dragon) territory and despite initial conflict were eventually able to forge peace by way of the real Shiva's sacrifice, only for the ancient King Thordan to betray said peace and kill the greatwyrm Ratatoskr to eat her eyes for power, very nearly kill the greatwyrm Nidhogg when he came to avenge her by prising out his eyes, and sending a third greatwyrm Hraesvelgr into a deep depression because of it - and then lying about it all in order to keep Ishgard's socio-political structure advantageous to the upper classes and give the common people cause to fight against the ever-vengeful and still very much alive Nidhogg, who survived by guilting Hraesvelgr into giving him one of his eyes (which contain a dragon's life essence and power, hence why the ancient King Thordan and his Knights Twelve ate Ratatoskr's and stashed away Nidhogg's to use as powerful relics).

    Bonus: Midgardsormr is heavily implied to be the template for this game's incarnation of Shinryu, as he is a divine / spirit dragon (the literal translation of "Shinryu") and fought against / was pursued by Omega to Hydaelyn, with Omega and Shinryu being archenemies as a series meta staple.
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    So Midgarsormr takes my warrior of light blessing away.
    Hydaelyn is MIA

    Moenbryda dies

    So midgarsormr responsible for her death?

    Also, the blade of light? what the heck is that, we didnt use that before? did we?

    That was a really cool fight though I really enjoyed it, ascians seem really powerful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenstrauch View Post
    Without getting into post-A Realm Reborn spoiler territory...

    Midgardsormr's name is a reference to the World Serpent from Norse mythology—a snake so massive that it is coiled around the world itself. He has no relation to Final Fantasy 7's Midgar or Midgar Zolom, save for those names coming from Norse mythology as well.

    He's the progenitor (read: super dad) of all dragons on Hydaelyn. You fought him because he attacked you. There are Magitek Robots there because the XIVth Legion (Gaius van Windbag's men) controlled the island you fought him on.

    He sealed the Blessing of Light, preventing you from using it. You still have it, it's just dormant.

    He might be stronger than Hydaelyn. He is probably not a primal.

    And as for why he hates Ishgard, you'll find out in Heavensward.
    So where does he come from if hes not a primal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    Keep playing the MSQ for answers.

    And no, he isn't related to Midgard, but to Norse Mythology where Midgardsomr is the great serpent. (FF VII drew a lot from Norse Mythology, Midgard is the realm of humans, Niflheim the underworld, for example.)

    There are Magitek soldiers bc his corpse is slung around an old Garlean vessel, and the Garleans try to get some supplies/materials from there.
    Does Miggardsormr allow them to do this?
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