Unpopular (probably) opinion about the Nier raids...

[Xaruko_Nexume]

*Possible Spoilers follow*

Loved this game the past several months ive done it. Even the stuff some people claim was tedious. Loved ARR and even the post quests. Pugged coils, Loved Stormblood, as im a sucker for a revolution story. Shadowbringers MSQ blew me away.

What is this Nier raid?? You meet some lalafels with beards, and behind a hidden mine there is basically a city no one knew anything about with A.I. fighting aliens? What?? It felt so out of place...Apparently this was a crossover with a game called Neir that I have never heard of.

This was also the first raid mechanically I failed so hard at but I think it was more to blame with the aesthetics. The colors and textures literally gave me a head ache. The white floors with the very lightly colored orange markers on the ground were very hard for me to see. It was very hard for me to tell what was going on most of the time. I never died so much in this game yet, it was embarrassing. Im not the best raider in the world but I do have heroic WoW and a little mythic experience.

Anyway, I did some googling and it seems this raid was very highly praised by most of the community, so I expect this to be an unpopular opinion but since day one I said I would be fair to the game when I found both positive and negative. I disliked it so much that if I ever make an alt I will go out of my way to not unlock the place. I hope they dont do something that far out there again.

[aveyond-dreams]

Mechanically I didn't find the NieR raids that difficult except in the hallway in Puppet's Bunker. Because casters don't exist, apparently. Besides that it was pretty great in terms of gameplay.

*however*

The story of these raids was so boring and full of filler and ultimately led up to: Nothing! It was really disappointing as someone whose actually played the NieR games. They've mentioned the possibility of collaborating again in order to get us the flight suit but if they do they need to write a better story for it.

[Claire_Pendragon]

The "story" (more so, lack there of) was so disappointing, I was about to unsub from the game, until a friend begged me to help them as they just started.
The raid itself i think is "technically" fine as a raid, but the way they made so much of the fight require looking outside of the arena, was something that bothered me way too much. But theres been fights like that before, so I think it was a combination of annoyances, from the lackluster attempt at a disjointed story, along with the constant camera spinning/moving to look for distant AoEs, and lastly, i was playing Shadowbringers DRK... which is so incredibly dull, I sometimes just AFK mid fight, as each boss felt like a ridiculous HP sponge, and I couldnt tell the difference between bosses and trash pulls, since they equally took forever to die. Having to spam 123 for what feels like an eternity when im already annoyed, was the worst experience ive had in the game.

Ive personally never went in again, even if it had gear upgrades i could use. I have no issues with prior 24man/EX/Savage raids, but this one annoyed me way too much. (again, Im probably being harsh on it, due to other factors being combined in my experience)

Unrelated...
Also, idk why i can still reply to threads in the forum, when i havent been subbed in over a month. Usually it stops me the day after my sub ends, or 1 week of not playing (while subbed) so idk whats going on lol.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

The "story" (more so, lack there of) was so disappointing.

I have no issues with prior 24man/EX/Savage raids, but this one annoyed me way too much.

Basically those two things. The story was so out there, different, and frankly bad to me compared to everything else all around it. It felt forced, like maybe that the writers/devs were required to do a crossover with Nier, and were basically told to make it work. Enjoyed and never had a problem with any other content ive done in the game thus far.

[_Pigzig]

I haven't done it yet but I don't think it's a crossover. It's just designed by the same people? Void Ark was pretty weird too. Not sure how these ruins were hidden though I agree. Gotta do it first I suppose.

[Claire_Pendragon]

I haven't done it yet but I don't think it's a crossover. It's just designed by the same people? Void Ark was pretty weird too. Not sure how these ruins were hidden though I agree. Gotta do it first I suppose.

Theres a night and day difference between void ark and neir.
Void Ark addresses far off locations, and history of the Machi people.
Neir is some Lalas who do unrelated events, and then theres a commercial break, where you go fight some unrelated bosses, in an unrelated location.
Nothing that happens in the raids effects the story to any real degree. it tries to pretend theres a connection, but really there isnt. (I used the word "commercial" because its THAT jarringly unrelated, Though, to be fair, the Lalas are the commercial, and the raid is the show. but the Lalas are 3-4 times longer than the show.)

[_Pigzig]

history of the Machi people.

Weren't they made up along with the raid? There were a few later references but I think they were all after the raid was in. Only established lore I remember from Void Ark was Diablo.

[DragonFlyy]

I haven't done it yet but I don't think it's a crossover. It's just designed by the same people? Void Ark was pretty weird too. Not sure how these ruins were hidden though I agree. Gotta do it first I suppose.

It is a crossover. With a game series called Nier. Most was developed by FFXIV dev team but the story and the fight mechanics were designed by the creator of Nier.

[VelKallor]

I enjoyed it thoroughly.

[LaylaTsarra]

I enjoyed it thoroughly.

Same was the best raid in my opinion but different strokes for different people. Love the dungeons, the gear and the ambiance. Story was fine too coming from someone who hasn't played any of the Nier games.