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[Roda]

Yeah, I mean I don't disagree. I think that's another reason why they are hesitant. How would you effectively put something like that in without comparing it to others? I recall Yoshi-P saying they thought of a gauge that sort of filled up, and if it stayed full you know you are doing your best dps, but it's all conceptual. I don't think we will ever see a party-wide DPS meter because it seems to go against their fundamental design philosophy of party-play.

I was just mentioning it because it is something they have considered.

Its funny because a damage ranking system DOES exist in the game. UwU's enrage literally sources an internal dps meter and kills your party off one by one in order of lowest dps to highest. That, paired with how many hard enrage dps checks there are, I don't believe their philosophy lines up with the implementation of their designs.

I think they're more afraid of the correlation between numerical analysis of performance and the toxicity of mmo communities. And Yada Yada correlation, causation, etc. In my experience, even without evidence to wield against others, toxicity will fester if the community is not trained to protect itself from it. SE has done a pretty good job of mechanically insulating the community from toxic spirals partially thanks to commendations as a system, as well as the developers setting good examples of humility and the desire for honest communication (though toxicity does still exist in small pockets). There's no one "easy fix" to stopping the encroachment ofthe community developing toxic attitudes, so I think they're a bit misguided on their desire to protect people from unwarranted and harsh criticism by forbidding tools to look at what are very neutral statistics.

Also a bar like that.. I wouldn't like tbh. 'Cause that would compel my loss-adverse ass to greed like no tomorrow lol. I think that's a kind of re-inventing the wheel thing.

[Caurcas]

I think it's more "this would be a pointless system because the people who care already try and the people who don't wouldn't anyway"

So like fellowships, duty recorder, and house tagging?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

So like fellowships, duty recorder, and house tagging?

I don't know anyone who uses duty recorder, tons of people use house tagging, and I see lots of fellowships (tho i personally dont use them)

I'm not really getting your point here. You listed 1 thing that most people dont use, and 2 that people do use.

This would be more along the lines of the pvp rankings at the end of a match, except there you also have people who try, and people who dont, and showing the numbers didn't change anything. People still either try or dont.

[solimiano]

Not only that, this is a final fantasy game, so we don't get graded. If it's difficult we grind and overlevel by 30 levels than we go and solo extremes and savage content 8 years later... Roftlol
On a more serious note your completely right, whoever needs or wants to be graded already can, people that are not interested don't need precious development time wasted on a grading system, it makes no sense whatsoever.

Yes you are also right, although the figures have now changed with the influx of new players, independently where they came from, the hardcore community represented 1% to 3% of the playerbase, this was acknowledged in one of the live letters.
Yoshi P will make some hardcore content for that group of players that want it, but 95% of the game is built for the casuals, it's a theme park mmo with a heavy focus on story element and it carries the final fantasy torch and all that comes with that.

Yes you are also correct glamour is the true endgame, we already have an built in parser for that called fashion report that you can try 4 times a week to get the maximum grade... This is the hardcore content you'll have on a final fantasy game.

[Katie_Kitty]

Commendations is a pretty meaningless and lousy system, I agree with that. I don't think it's ever going to change though.. Pointless as it is, casual players really like their magical meaningless gamer points that they get for completely arbitrary reasons mainly.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Commendations is a pretty meaningless and lousy system, I agree with that. I don't think it's ever going to change though.. Pointless as it is, casual players really like their magical meaningless gamer points that they get for completely arbitrary reasons mainly.

Aren't all points meaningless gamer points? Log rankings, "score" at the end of a dungeon, etc.

This just seems antagonistic for no reason lol

[Katie_Kitty]

Aren't all points meaningless gamer points? Log rankings, "score" at the end of a dungeon, etc.

This just seems antagonistic for no reason lol

It's not antagonistic, it's reality. Logs at least demonstrate objective reality by offering actual numbers for things that matter. I never proposed a scoring system so I don't see why you would bring that up. If you think me saying "commendations are pointless" is antagonizing you then maybe you care too much about commendations.

[LioJen]

The commendation system isn't helpful, but it's also harmless and can brighten someone's day to get one when they weren't expecting it.

I'd say anyone who is clearing the high end content in this game is either already using some third party software to evaluate themselves, or simply does not need it. High end content requires a group, and guaranteed someone in that group is using that software and will gladly let the console friends know what they're seeing.

Would I like an in-game damage meter or some sort of Frontlines-style results screen at the end of an instance? Yes, I love seeing if I did better than last time, but I'm not sure how you would even quantify that in something like a dungeon in a meaningful way. Obviously pure damage numbers is not the same kind of useful metric for that kind of content as it is for just a straight single boss fight, and you can't really count a K/D ratio in PVE content

[Caurcas]

It could also be a fun side task. Trying to S-rank all battle content ala DMC or RE.

[White_Wolf_X]

No thanks.