As a PS4/PS5 user how will you manage so many new skills on a controller?

[DiasFlacOg]

With Endwalker coming soon and adding at least from what I can tell 5 new abilities to each job how will you manage them?

I've only been playing Ff14 for one year but as far as I can tell with every new expansion they add new abilities.

My cross hotbar is literally full now and very cluttered.

I wonder how SE plans on tackling this issue? I also noticed that no one from the FF14 community members who interviewed yoshi p (during the media tour) never asked him anything relating to this matter.

This is not really a complaint, it's more of a discussion on how other console players feel about the mass button bloat that will happen soon.

If this seems like an overreaction or I have false info please feel free to correct me

[RinaB]

I'm not to worried about it (SAM player). My issue is I don't want to sacrifice emote spots

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

With Endwalker coming soon and adding at least from what I can tell 5 new abilities to each job how will you manage them?

I typically keep my combat skills on Hotbar one, and shift to Hotbar 2 for Buff and some AOE abilities.
So far its been pretty easy to manage my Buttons.
Except for Summoner.....that was stressful for me to figure out

[PlushyprincessMusa]

Its not hard i got 4 bars i can easily rotate one for single target/main combo for bossrs
A traah bar to switch to for aoe
Macro rez swiftcast on one bar i can swap towith r1 thing where lb sits and my buffs on l2 thingy

[Mikey_R]

Every job can fit every ability on 2 crossbars (not counting LB), so making use of the Expanded and W crossbars helps alot.

If your info is right and you use Paladin, do not worry about it. Everything Paladin gets is either an upgrade to an existing ability, so no new slots, or it shares a slot with another ability, the 3 sword combo shares a slot with Confiteor.

For other jobs, it is also worth noting that they do get rid of some old abilities to replace with new ones, the idea being they float around the high 20s for number of button slots used (some are more, some are less).

For example, Samurai, while it is getting iirc 2 new buttons to assign (AoE Yukikaze and the 2 GCD damage, sorry, I can't be bothered to look up their names and Shoha 2), you do lose 2 actions in Seigen and Merciful Eyes, so it is only 1 new action to assign.

[Avatre]

There is easy access to 48 skills on controller.
-Hold R2/L2 to get 8 respectively
-Hold R2+L2 or L2+R2 to get another 8 each
-Double tap R2/L2 to get 8 respectively again

I'm not worried about not having hotbar space for skills.

[Bacent]

Controller players have way more spaces to put skills. There's also skills in classes that are turning in to new skills. Don't know why people keep saying 'omg so many new skills taking up hotbar spots' when there's not...?

[Andy_T93]

With Endwalker coming soon and adding at least from what I can tell 5 new abilities to each job how will you manage them?

I've only been playing Ff14 for one year but as far as I can tell with every new expansion they add new abilities.

My cross hotbar is literally full now and very cluttered.

I wonder how SE plans on tackling this issue? I also noticed that no one from the FF14 community members who interviewed yoshi p (during the media tour) never asked him anything relating to this matter.

This is not really a complaint, it's more of a discussion on how other console players feel about the mass button bloat that will happen soon.

If this seems like an overreaction or I have false info please feel free to correct me

Where on earth are you getting this 5 news skills idea from. Admittedly I have only looked at jobs I play regularly, But of those Monk actually has less skills now, Dancer gets 2 new ones, Red Mage gets 1

[Illmaeran]

Where on earth are you getting this 5 news skills idea from. Admittedly I have only looked at jobs I play regularly, But of those Monk actually has less skills now, Dancer gets 2 new ones, Red Mage gets 1

They're adding two new classes, so we're going to get an additional 5 skills to account for.

[Sqwall]

I have been playing since PS3 and the cross hotbar was a god send for ANYONE that plays specifically on console.

When they added Mouse and Keyboard support...it was just even more welcome.

Having said that. Bloat never become more apparent until Stormblood came out. It was pretty bad to play competitively when you had to switch to different hotbars all the time. The W-Cross hotbar/expanded cross hotbar is where it's at.

Where I have become leaning to...more...and more. Is in high end content extremes/savages you have to build hotbars built for high end content.

Current Extreme/Savage hotbars:
-no AOE's on majority DPS and TANKS set to hotbars. Most content doesn't need them and this cleans up your hotbars for skills that are needed primarily.

-OT and MT hotbars for what is important and not important. Flick of the wrist and I can change to a MT hotbar setup which prioritizes skills that are self target (normal). OT hotbars are setup with macros to aid MT (support). No cycling during combat. Just provoke or shirk and switch MT/OT hotbar setup and stay there until next tank swap.

- Role skills are ALL on the same hotbar setup for EVERY tank/dps/heals. I go from Warrior to Paladin...the role skills don't change hotbar slots.
Example: Addle, Feint, reprisal, sprint, Limit Break are in the same hotbar slot. This way muscle memory can take over. This goes for my Invulns, Cure 1/Benefic, Regen/Aspected Benefic, when I change to healers.

-Crafting...this is a no brainer and ever since Shadowbringers trimmed down the crafting it has made my bars literally the same for ALL crafting. Plus all my macros are put together in the groupings for 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 5.4 crafted items that need certain amounts of quality/progress when I don't want to finish the craft until quality is reached. Final appraisal is a god send when doing older post 70.

-Gathering literally the same for mining/botany, and you barely use your full skill kit in gathering anyway. Used to have a collectible set, but not anymore.

Playing this game on controller is sometimes better then games DESIGNED with controller as it's main form of control. FFXIV Endwalker is minor bloat for controller players, and SE seems to be taking notice with traiting skills more and more.