Penalty for watching cutscene

[Yma]

Ugh this is a rant post.

I do not understand why there is no way to pause your queue when you are watching a cut scene. All I want to do is work on a few quests whilst I queue, but they all have cutscenes, and the queues always seem to pop in the middle of them! Was just queuing 30 mins to get into Urths Fount. It popped during a long cutscene and I had the choice of either exiting the cutscene or losing my spot.

To top it off, you then get an abandoned penalty. The whole thing is infuriating, and encourages you to do something outside the game instead. I’m not going to sit and watch my character for 30 mins. Other MMOs simply pause your queue when you are not in a position to accept the group.

Anyways, it’s very frustrating and I’d love it if they fixed it somehow.

[Misutoraru]

It is weird that some cutscene allow the queue pop up and let you enter the queued content and “reset” the cutscene
Some other cutscene I think it is mainly MSQ? Allow the queue to pop up but don’t let you join until the cut scene finish or you skip it
I don’t understand why can’t all the cutscene or set to “reset” if the player choose to join the content, they just have to chop the long non stop chain quest into smaller pieces

[RobynDaBank]

It is weird that some cutscene allow the queue pop up and let you enter the queued content and “reset” the cutscene
Some other cutscene I think it is mainly MSQ? Allow the queue to pop up but don’t let you join until the cut scene finish or you skip it
I don’t understand why can’t all the cutscene or set to “reset” if the player choose to join the content, they just have to chop the long non stop chain quest into smaller pieces

Hmm, recently I ditched an MSQ cutscene in Shadowbringers in favour of a queue pop, it was ready for reset when I returned. Perhaps it's not applicable for all of them? Would be odd.

I think the "pop during cutscene" is a bad situation only if you changed your job after you queued up and before you started the cutscene. No way to accept that pop without worming out of the scene and returning to your queued up job. Sadly IMO a full wait option would be iffy since cutscenes can vary from a minute or so to several minutes (even those without the long scenes warning), and an instance doesn't begin until everyone accepts. After all there has to be a limit on how long pop is available, it keeps both those behind you and those who accepted waiting for an unknown amount of time.

Either way, you can miss one or at the most two pops per day with the penalty count, so it gives some leeway at least. Worst that happens here is for DDs who wait for many minutes, risk a cutscene, decline queue but have to start waiting again. It seems a little too situational to warrant a long wait solution instead.

[Iscah]

Hmm, recently I ditched an MSQ cutscene in Shadowbringers in favour of a queue pop, it was ready for reset when I returned. Perhaps it's not applicable for all of them? Would be odd.

It is indeed odd. Sometimes you can accept the duty mid-cutscene, so the cutscene doesn't get marked complete and you can rewatch it from the start once you come out of the duty. But other times, even if you're the same class that you signed up to queue with, you get an error when you try to accept – from memory, something about "cannot use the duty finder while occupied" or something like that.

I've been trying to make a list of them when they happen, to see if there's a pattern. Perhaps it's cutscenes that behave in some particular way.

[Fyrebrand]

It is indeed odd. Sometimes you can accept the duty mid-cutscene, so the cutscene doesn't get marked complete and you can rewatch it from the start once you come out of the duty. But other times, even if you're the same class that you signed up to queue with, you get an error when you try to accept – from memory, something about "cannot use the duty finder while occupied" or something like that.

I've been trying to make a list of them when they happen, to see if there's a pattern. Perhaps it's cutscenes that behave in some particular way.

Could it perhaps be the cutscenes that you can't skip because at some point there is a dialogue choice you have to make? Or perhaps one of those longer sequences where even if you skip, it immediately plays another scene right after? Or maybe one of those scenes where your character is actually removed from the map and placed somewhere else afterward, so in the meantime you kind of don't exist anywhere.

[Iscah]

That's what I thought initially, but you could be DPS #1 in queue and another healer could still queue into Roulette system, which implies your queue should pop next. But... you don't always get your duty popped. Thus, you aren't actually "#1" in the queue, rather in the list of "#1 in queue".

A better example is to look at it is how multiple individuals can be in the DPS solo queue in trials and be "#1 in queue" because each trial takes the next 4 trial roulette players.

That sounds very unlikely to me. It's still a queue. You don't give four people "#1 in queue" status; you take #1-#4 when it's time to assemble the party. Otherwise what happens when the system is trying to recruit three DPS to fill someone's queue? They don't all have equal priority. The first three eligible people will be taken.

Your initial logic doesn't make sense to me. You have no way of knowing when a healer queues into the roulette, so why assume this system of multiple #1s over simply being at the front of the queue while either the healer or tank queue is currently empty?

[AnotherPerson]

That sounds very unlikely to me. It's still a queue. You don't give four people "#1 in queue" status; you take #1-#4 when it's time to assemble the party. Otherwise what happens when the system is trying to recruit three DPS to fill someone's queue? They don't all have equal priority. The first three eligible people will be taken.

Your initial logic doesn't make sense to me. You have no way of knowing when a healer queues into the roulette, so why assume this system of multiple #1s over simply being at the front of the queue while either the healer or tank queue is currently empty?

Sure you can, just have a healer friend solo queue up while you're in #1 DPS queue. If the healer queue pops but yours doesn't, it means you didn't get your queue popped even if you were at the top of the list for the same roulette. It meant another tank and healer filled the queue for another group - implying you didn't meet the requirements to join or the DPS slots were filled up. Now, if you did unlock all the duties, that shouldn't be the case, hinting that there's more priorities for "#1 in queue" slot. Now, when we zoom this out and take into consideration the number of extra priorities in a massive scale for every player queueing up, you would have to separate them into another group to categorize them.

[Ranaku]

I think someone doesn't understand how a queue works...if you get into a queue in a themepark...and you just go quick to get a hotdog or something...and then come back and can't get into the same spot in the line or the ride already started...that is your fault you know that, yeah?

Maybe you learned your lesson now and don't to stuff that prevents you from accepting the invite. Maybe gather some mats next time. Or just wait and be a bit patient.

[Fayt1203]

I think someone doesn't understand how a queue works...if you get into a queue in a themepark...and you just go quick to get a hotdog or something...and then come back and can't get into the same spot in the line or the ride already started...that is your fault you know that, yeah?

Maybe you learned your lesson now and don't to stuff that prevents you from accepting the invite. Maybe gather some mats next time. Or just wait and be a bit patient.

?????? did you read the post she was asking why she gets a penalty when the system dose not allow her to accepted the duty while in Msq cutscene with out skipping it and is pointing out that need to change which i agree though don't know how they would be able to do that

[Jijifli]

I think someone doesn't understand how a queue works...if you get into a queue in a themepark...and you just go quick to get a hotdog or something...and then come back and can't get into the same spot in the line or the ride already started...that is your fault you know that, yeah?

Maybe you learned your lesson now and don't to stuff that prevents you from accepting the invite. Maybe gather some mats next time. Or just wait and be a bit patient.

Some cutscenes throw a fit at you and don't let you go in even if you're on the class. And in this case, your example isn't somewhat incorrect.

It's more you're in line at a themepark for a ride, and someone when you're almost up for the ride gives you a hotdog and you decided you wanted it. Now you have a hotdog and they tell you now you can't get on the ride because you took the hotdog they offered. You never got out of line, you simply took something offered to you while waiting and now you're screwed because of it.

Unless, of course, you throw the hotdog to the ground. Now it's filthy, and nobody wants to eat it. And they say if you do, you won't get another hotdog. But all you did was, again, take a hotdog THEY offered you.