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  1. #11
    Player
    Noctisnine's Avatar
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    Winter Valentine
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    DRK has a variety of problems not just TBN. There is dark mind only being magical damage, there is abyssal drain which is very meh to say the least. There is Bloodweapon that should have charges. There is salted hearth and salted heath 2 that are just trash. His aoe rotation is all magic when it should be weapon skills. There is oblation being underwhelming. There is Living dead that will continue to be bad for another expansion, this is going to be the 6 year in a row that happens. There is Delirium being a bad copy of inner release.
    So right now he is the one doing less damage for tanks but at the same time he has TBN, in 3 weeks he will continue to do less damage than the other tanks and his mitigation will be worse since everyone got better versions of TBN. So why would you even play this job?
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    Susubi Subi
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    Phoenix
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Wait what?? I legit stated that we have to wait until endwalker to give data to the Devs and such, that media tour ain't even the final product, they do change a lot of skills on release

    And I'm sorry but I'm not gonna sit here explaining a lot of details what's wrong with most of the jobs....but I guess I have too now since a "select" few is.bashing already


    1) gunbreaker

    ATM it's extreamly full and people are worried about using tank cooldowns in its "continuation" combo

    They dislike bow shock + sonic break since u only use them 1 time per minute and feel like it's button bloat for no reason just to slap more damage into gun breaker



    2) dark knight

    Yes I know dark mind shouldn't be 20% magic mitigation, yes I know skill speed does NOT effect unleash or stalward soul , yes I know blood weapon is a tight window to fit that extra 1 GCD at the end for a total of 5 gcd , and yes I know living dead needs a change because it's bad...so don't assume I know nothing


    These are just 2 examples I'm giving out because I don't want to sit here flooding the forums over basic stuff ....and btw everyone is legit sulking over 1 GCD is hard to fit in to blood weapon, which is easily fixed with skill speed, dispite it not effecting the Aoe rotation


    Man I been around for a good 8 year and legit starting to see the community get worst and worst over the years and been far to focus on GCD, need to ram everything in that "trick" window to do optimal DPS (legit wish they remove trick), sulking over "potency" values etc too this crap have been happening and is getting worst over the years

    So I do expect the community to crash and burn in 7.x .....because it is going the same way WoW did after Wrath of the lich king expansion

    I have been speaking to a few Vets who I known over the years and they have mostly all agree the community is turning bad already, and endwalker ain't even out yet
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  3. #13
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    Wait what?? I legit stated that we have to wait until endwalker to give data to the Devs and such,
    we don't actually ,not like they don't think about changes till early access is out
    essentially only giving them 2 weeks to see community reaction and to make adjustments

    like yes numbers and potencies are not final but a jobs entire gameplay mechanics generally are they also only mentioned about still working on Bard and thats it.
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  4. #14
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    Mello Minkus
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Potencies may be changing, but in order for them to change, it helps to have some feedback to the initial potencies, so I don't think it's inherently bad to talk about them now.
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  5. #15
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    Wait what?? I legit stated that we have to wait until endwalker to give data to the Devs and such, that media tour ain't even the final product, they do change a lot of skills on releaset
    So it's just another "wait until the media tour ...wait until release ...they'll definitely fix it in 6.1 ...wait until next expansion" thread.

    Nothing to see here, moving on.
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  6. #16
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Oh look, you still don't know what you're talking about.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    1) - potencies
    )

    For this to be your #1 shows that you actually haven't read any of the criticisms on these forums at all...
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  8. #18
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    Equinox Axxion
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tribezer0 View Post
    For this to be your #1 shows that you actually haven't read any of the criticisms on these forums at all...
    they just pick an choose what they want to read. check there post history.
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  9. #19
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    The problem with TBN hasnt been overly stated on the forums both English and JP. Since DRK is the most played tank then these considerations might not be taken into considerations. From what we have seen unless a job is least played it wont get any real adjustments.

    Yoshi P himself said that the team have not been informed or aware that their are problems with skills such as LD, Blood Weapon, Dark Mind, TBN. Even though clearly we have voiced our concerns for years, streamers included.
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  10. #20
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Yes TBN has still one thing that makes it a bit better and that is the diminishing return formula.

    As a shield tbn is always 100 % effective but the problem with that in endwalker is simple. Every other tank has massively improved sustain for both main and off tanking except dark knight, you actually don’t care at all if you survive the tankbuster with 20% or 40% if you can just fully heal yourself as war with a pld off tank in 2 seconds anyway.

    So why would you take the job with the most specific magic only cooldown ,the worst immunity in game and no sustain except soul eater when every other tank is just way better and has versatile dmg reduces (dark mind meme)
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