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    Are the Skysteel Tools meant to be practically impossible?

    I'm on the final step of the DoH relic and I can't even complete the craft, let alone get high enough collectability to trade it in.

    I have a full set of level 80 Handsaint Gear and the market doesn't offer anything better than that, yet I still can't get the control/craftsmanship recommended.
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    Melded HQ Aesthete will give you better stats than Handsaint. Also, are you using food?
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    Yes I was using food. I saw the aesthete gear, but the stats weren't as good as the Handsaint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charity322 View Post
    I saw the aesthete gear, but the stats weren't as good as the Handsaint.
    That's true if you only look at the base stats. Scrip gear can't be melded so once you add materia to the mix the crafted gear becomes better. Even with just regular materia and no overmelding the stats on the crafted sets are comparable, if not better.
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    Thanks for the information. Now I wonder why I spent all that time collecting scrips. Was pleased to have something that didn't require gil for once. Guess I need to find a moneymaking enterprise lol. Why would they make scrip gear non meldable? DX
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charity322 View Post
    Thanks for the information. Now I wonder why I spent all that time collecting scrips. Was pleased to have something that didn't require gil for once. Guess I need to find a moneymaking enterprise lol. Why would they make scrip gear non meldable? DX
    FYI, up until now and still holds true and will most likely be true in the future, fully overmelded crafted gear will always be better than scrip gear of the about equivalent ilvl. Scrip gear there more so for people who don't want to get deep into crafting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charity322 View Post
    Thanks for the information. Now I wonder why I spent all that time collecting scrips. Was pleased to have something that didn't require gil for once. Guess I need to find a moneymaking enterprise lol. Why would they make scrip gear non meldable? DX
    Handsaint gear doesn't need materia slots. It's sufficient for everything except Expert. Expert was designed specifically for crafters who use the most current pentamelded HQ gear.

    You can get minimum rating needed on the final Skybuilder Tool stage using full Handsaint (2606 Craftmanship, 2454 Control, 507 CP) with HQ Chili Crab and HQ Cunning Syrup. It means making more items than would be needed if you took advantage of conditions as they occur but you'd still be able to get your tool.

    /ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
    /ac Manipulation <wait.2>
    /ac Veneration <wait.2>
    /ac "Waste Not" <wait.2>
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
    /ac Manipulation <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>

    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>

    As a side note, you should also be able ot make your own HQ Aesthete gear using your Handsaint gear if you decide you want to go to the effort. If you can't gather what you need yourself, many of the materials are fairly cheap on the MB now.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 10-28-2021 at 04:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thamorian View Post
    FYI, up until now and still holds true and will most likely be true in the future, fully overmelded crafted gear will always be better than scrip gear of the about equivalent ilvl. Scrip gear there more so for people who don't want to get deep into crafting.
    Thanks. I've never ventured into expert recipes before, as this is the first time I've gotten a crafter to max level and the relic was the first time it came up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Handsaint gear doesn't need materia slots. It's sufficient for everything except Expert. Expert was designed specifically for crafters who use the most current pentamelded HQ gear.

    You can get minimum rating needed on the final Skybuilder Tool stage using full Handsaint (2606 Craftmanship, 2454 Control, 507 CP) with HQ Chili Crab and HQ Cunning Syrup. It means making more items than would be needed if you took advantage of conditions as they occur but you'd still be able to get your tool.

    As a side note, you should also be able ot make your own HQ Aesthete gear using your Handsaint gear if you decide you want to go to the effort. If you can't gather what you need yourself, many of the materials are fairly cheap on the MB now.
    I have Botanist and Weaver at 80, so I might be able to make some stuff to boost my stats. I always forget that. XD Thanks.
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    At this point in time, I don't think it's worth pentamelding level 80 gear when we're three weeks away from going up to level 90.
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    Yeah, that is a point. Unfortunately then the Skysteel Tools will probably become obsolete too.
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