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  1. #51
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    WHM may be a liitle underpowered by comparison, but I'm pretty sure WHM will still be viable
    Absolutely. WHM will be "fine".

    The only issue is that it'll be "fine" and "viable" while the other healers will be powerhouses.
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  2. #52
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    Dru Hutton
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    Odin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I want to joke and say PAL/WAR - what are healers.....
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  3. #53
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Ast/Sge overall, I can only really see Whm or Sch being viable is if there is just a ton of healing or a ton of mitigation required, but considering that just rarely happens, Ast and Sge could be the go to for the rdps and dps. That being said metas arent really a massive deal since you can clear any ex/savage/ultimate content with and job.
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  4. #54
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    Gunther Frey
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Laphicet View Post
    rant about how useless healers are.
    This was a hilarious read. Glad to see we've gotten to the point of black-pilling over a video game.
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  5. #55
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    Source Eldion
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    This was a hilarious read. Glad to see we've gotten to the point of black-pilling over a video game.
    Except he's right.
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  6. #56
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    Gunther Frey
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxCh40s View Post
    Except he's right.
    Oh no i can't believe he got you too!

    I know you hate it when we say it but this is unfortunately going to be a...now wait for it... WAIT AND SEE kind of thing. And even if the most optimized groups don't run healers that doesn't mean healers have no value outside of that. Not everyone playing this game is going to be playing at that level, for those people having a healer or two will be welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    In the end, every change, every design choice, is up to the devs. If they decided to go one way with an element of gameplay or a job, acting like they kicked your dog on the forums isn't going to change anything. At some point, you have to cut your losses or you're just wasting energy being so emotionnaly invested into something that won't change.

  7. #57
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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    I know you hate it when we say it but this is unfortunately going to be a...now wait for it... WAIT AND SEE kind of thing.
    I've been sat waiting at this table since the Stormblood media preview!
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

  8. #58
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    Mike Arklight
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 92
    tbh the ast/sge meta will be more prominent due to how whm and sch gameplay will feel most of all.

    with whm mp economy plummets to the ground making basically ast 5.0 and whm level 50 mp issues will now hunts him at level 90 only worse , he won't be anymore prog friendly healer(aka new player friendly) and has way more downside in progging compare to ast in terms of recovery in case of failure(especially personal failure cause they can restore their mp faster now) ,in pure healer category ast is the clear winner;

    sch while have util is still one of the clunkiest and have contradictive kit that wont reward for said contradiction so while being able to do content ,its has the worst gameplay compare to sge who not only dont suffer from ghost and delays on his skiils due to fairy AI but he does not have any parts of the kit that actually lock him from using his other skills when they are used and since it was proven that sge has the same stuff sch has except niche util and he is more dps focused and actually heal people when he dps, so in the barrier healer category its sge that wins.

    ast can also stack his shields with either of the barrier healers so most chances are we will see ast/sge or the niche of ast/sch as meta more even though ast has more rng.
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  9. #59
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    All it takes to change the meta is a 10 potency buff to a nuke, so I'd say it's a little bit to early to tell.

    I did notice though that SCH's shield potential is quite higher than SGE, so SCH might be meta in some fights if some mechanics can be cheesed with shield stacking.
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  10. #60
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulH View Post
    I want to joke and say PAL/WAR - what are healers.....
    A slot that has to be filled just to commence a DF.
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