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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    this thread is now about awesome vans again.
    Yo we got cut off last time...
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  2. #202
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    Yo we got cut off last time...


    i found a bunch of them by typing Japanese custom vans
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  3. #203
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    From the "Fix Garuda" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    I wonder this....

    At some point when the level cap is 99, BLMs will be able to go to Ifrit or Garuda and one shot them with one big Burstaga or something like that, therefore, skipping hellfire or Aerial blast completely...

    Would that, also, be an exploit?
    Not trying to start a flame war, I think it's just a very good question
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  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    From the "Fix Garuda" thread



    Not trying to start a flame war, I think it's just a very good question
    Since their fights are exclusive to 1.0, I doubt it. They did say they would return in 2.0, but I believe in a different way. We know in Free Company once you beat Ifrit, the leader is allowed to summon him once. After that you have to fight him again.
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  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Since their fights are exclusive to 1.0, I doubt it. They did say they would return in 2.0, but I believe in a different way. We know in Free Company once you beat Ifrit, the leader is allowed to summon him once. After that you have to fight him again.
    So do we think the fights will continue to exist in 2.0? If you have to fight them to gain the ability to summon them, and you can only gain that ability after 2.0... I don't see how the fights could be taken out
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  6. #206
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    So do we think the fights will continue to exist in 2.0? If you have to fight them to gain the ability to summon them, and you can only gain that ability after 2.0... I don't see how the fights could be taken out
    i was really hoping the primal claim system would be something like rifts "rift" system were its open world and you see the sky and weather change and everyone rushes to the area to battle it. Instead of first claim system have some sort of scoring system like hamlets have.
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  7. #207
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    nah, already covered this at length on page 15. skipping plumes 2 and phase 2 are examples of game design working as intended, to make sure you're still forced to deal with the harder parts of the fight, no matter how fast you burn her. that's a mob AI HP check, and it's intentional.

    the AI for her aerial blast HP check, however, is bugged. which has been acknowledged by devs. which is why you can skip it, even though you can't with any other primal.
    Amazes me how you still don't know the quirks of Garuda after killing her so much.

    100%-90% = Normal attacks + WS. At 90%, Garuda immediately jumps in the air and does Mistral Shriek.

    90%-60% = Normal Plumage + Mistral Shriek or Song. There is no set amount of plumes. She will repeat this combo until her tits shrivel or you die/timeout if you never take her below 60%.

    60% = This is where she is buggy and inconsistent. Below 60%, she does her mass Plumage set which consists of the greater deal of plumes followed by Aerial Blast afterwards. The timing on this phase varies anywhere from 1min to 1min 50secs depending on when exactly she summon plumes since it's not instant and if she already had a set out while taken to below 60%. After Aerial Blast, it's Phase 2 until 40%.

    40%-0% = Phase 3 shenanigans. South winds lasts 1 min, the other two 1 min 30secs~.

    Knowing this, -everyone- that has fought Garuda has benefited from this bug where she doesn't auto Aerial Blast. PUG groups, groups that skip phase 2, BLM zerg groups. The 1min+ allotted to everyone at 60% of pure unadulterated DPS before Aerial Blast is the problem. If you've taken her to 40%, 30%, 15%, death, you've benefited from the bug no matter what setup you used. The equivalent for Ifrit would be if he was able to be killed in the 1 min window from when nails pop with no HP check to force him to Hellfire. I've no clue what % SE will finalize her auto Aerial Blast or if Phase 2 is wholly considered part of the Plumage + Aerial Blast combo to begin with.

    I hope in the future we continue to find these bugs anyway. SE can only learn from it.
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  8. #208
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikosho View Post
    Amazes me how you still don't know the quirks of Garuda after killing her so much.
    i'm sorry, are we being snarky?

    so, blm burn strat goes public the evening of the 29th. next day you and a whole lot of other scrubs magically get a smooth no-death kill on their first win. i wonder how that happened. your rigorous defense of the exploiters isn't helping your case, either.

    but if you're such an expert on garuda mechanics, where were you 7 hours into patch? should've been you scoring that first kill, yeah? pity.
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  9. #209
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    Elitist Battle! *Grabs popcorn and sit on a chair with legs propped up*
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  10. #210
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    All I see by this threads title is "Look at how I have cheated and praise me for it and be jealous for some reason!"
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