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[ShadowWolf]

As, I cant Condem Starlord by his comment, I would like to add this to it:

IF the patch comes out, AND you can no longer Burn Garuda with enough blm damage, to Skip the middle phase, Where she warps around the screen and goes straight into the rotating sand plumes, as you walk clockwise (see BG video), Does that (even though they were playing to best of their ability, and if that meant it surpassed a phase due to lack of restrictions/structure "Completely on the Dev team shoulders") Does this not mean the following will be true:

1: BG as a well formed team, Put out great damage resulting in partial exploint Unaware to them or developers, and thus resulted in a Win early, though most rightly deserved than expected.

2: The resulting patch "may or may not" now restrict it, to where "astral flow" whatever you wish to call it, will now result faster, thus negating the ability to skip any phase. forcing all to experience all three (if you wanna break it down farther fine by me) phases, result in negative feedback toward the dev's about their mistake.

NOW before you flame. I am not saying BG exploited anything, but if the resulting patch negates the ability to skip a phase anything pre-patch, "known or unknown" would be DEV TEAM error, and not those who were succesful, but still none the less, a win by error, not a win per the intended form they hoped to design it to be. BG i am sure was on the top of many minds to be first to take down garuda. And if by their win, and the resulting exploit of thier original win strat, which im more than willing to say was based off of BG's win. (3bmls, skipped a phase, what would 5 do...) has shown the way to "fix dev error's" then BG stands as Original win in my book.

WHO THE HELL CARES WHAT THE ABOVE SAYS, BG won by skill, Their Strat was exploited (3blms skipped a phase, what would 5 double/trip melded + Elixers do....) , and now there will be a patch. If you can no longer skip a phase by a little more DD with three BLMs, GREAT!!! the price of all that tripple melded blm gear and INT materia might come down much less the 60k per elixer... cause now even the guys wearing all AF will eventually get to same place with teamwork!!

[fusional]

1: BG as a well formed team, Put out great damage resulting in partial exploint Unaware to them or developers, and thus resulted in a Win early, though most rightly deserved than expected.

nah, already covered this at length on page 15. skipping plumes 2 and phase 2 are examples of game design working as intended, to make sure you're still forced to deal with the harder parts of the fight, no matter how fast you burn her. that's a mob AI HP check, and it's intentional.

the AI for her aerial blast HP check, however, is bugged. which has been acknowledged by devs. which is why you can skip it, even though you can't with any other primal.

[Kikosho]

nah, already covered this at length on page 15. skipping plumes 2 and phase 2 are examples of game design working as intended, to make sure you're still forced to deal with the harder parts of the fight, no matter how fast you burn her. that's a mob AI HP check, and it's intentional.

the AI for her aerial blast HP check, however, is bugged. which has been acknowledged by devs. which is why you can skip it, even though you can't with any other primal.

Amazes me how you still don't know the quirks of Garuda after killing her so much.

100%-90% = Normal attacks + WS. At 90%, Garuda immediately jumps in the air and does Mistral Shriek.

90%-60% = Normal Plumage + Mistral Shriek or Song. There is no set amount of plumes. She will repeat this combo until her tits shrivel or you die/timeout if you never take her below 60%.

60% = This is where she is buggy and inconsistent. Below 60%, she does her mass Plumage set which consists of the greater deal of plumes followed by Aerial Blast afterwards. The timing on this phase varies anywhere from 1min to 1min 50secs depending on when exactly she summon plumes since it's not instant and if she already had a set out while taken to below 60%. After Aerial Blast, it's Phase 2 until 40%.

40%-0% = Phase 3 shenanigans. South winds lasts 1 min, the other two 1 min 30secs~.

Knowing this, -everyone- that has fought Garuda has benefited from this bug where she doesn't auto Aerial Blast. PUG groups, groups that skip phase 2, BLM zerg groups. The 1min+ allotted to everyone at 60% of pure unadulterated DPS before Aerial Blast is the problem. If you've taken her to 40%, 30%, 15%, death, you've benefited from the bug no matter what setup you used. The equivalent for Ifrit would be if he was able to be killed in the 1 min window from when nails pop with no HP check to force him to Hellfire. I've no clue what % SE will finalize her auto Aerial Blast or if Phase 2 is wholly considered part of the Plumage + Aerial Blast combo to begin with.

I hope in the future we continue to find these bugs anyway. SE can only learn from it.

[fusional]

Amazes me how you still don't know the quirks of Garuda after killing her so much.

i'm sorry, are we being snarky?

so, blm burn strat goes public the evening of the 29th. next day you and a whole lot of other scrubs magically get a smooth no-death kill on their first win. i wonder how that happened. your rigorous defense of the exploiters isn't helping your case, either.

but if you're such an expert on garuda mechanics, where were you 7 hours into patch? should've been you scoring that first kill, yeah? pity.

[Kikosho]

i'm sorry, are we being snarky?

so, blm burn strat goes public the evening of the 29th. next day you and a whole lot of other scrubs magically get a smooth no-death kill on their first win. i wonder how that happened. your rigorous defense of the exploiters isn't helping your case, either.

but if you're such an expert on garuda mechanics, where were you 7 hours into patch? should've been you scoring that first kill, yeah? pity.

7 hours into patch? Working, got home around emergency maintenance, went back to work after emergency maintenance was over, didn't get real time to play till after BLM burn was released. Pity me. After doing the fight a couple times with different setups, I picked up on things as well since it's not real hard to figure out, it's all execution. This is a team game as well so I can't exactly solo Garuda now can I?

I'm not defending exploiters either as I already said I don't consider it an exploit. But if you don't consider getting her to 15% before Aerial Blast with a standard setup an exploit either then that's all that needs to be said regarding this issue. I'm for the patch as well so all this bantering is moot.

[Penguin]

I'm not defending exploiters either as I already said I don't consider it an exploit. But if you don't consider getting her to 15% before Aerial Blast with a standard setup an exploit either then that's all that needs to be said regarding this issue. I'm for the patch as well so all this bantering is moot.

There is a difference between doing the fight normally and having enough dps to burn her through phases while killing the plumes, making sure the pillars don't take too much damage, transitioning into phase 3 controlling the clones and doing enough dps to them to kill them before they port and 1 shot everyone without pulling aggro and getting everyone stunned/knockbacked, or moving as a group while killing the plumes in the clock phase while also doing damage to garuda, and than killing her before your dps run out of mp.

And standing at the side of the arena, ignoring the plumes, ignoring the pillars and waiting for a small set of plumes to spawn allowing you the maximum amount of time to kill her before the other 50% of the fight even begins.

Not saying either strategy is hard but i am not sure if you noticed that 1 does completely ignore the entire purpose of the fight and the other doesn't.