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    Even mage burning takes some coordination and skill. It is still not zone in and auto win.

    Once that is patched, people will move on to the next easiest way to kill her.

    The only major significance of this fight is that you get a reward every time. Unlike Ifrit and Moogle where you don't know how many kills it will take until you are 7/7 at least with Garuda you know it will be no more then 140 kills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatdawg View Post
    Even mage burning takes some coordination and skill. It is still not zone in and auto win.
    It's tank and spank with an enrage timer. Sorry if that doesn't impress me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    It's tank and spank with an enrage timer. Sorry if that doesn't impress me.
    Wish it was as easy as it sounds.

    You need strict gear, people who don't suck, and concrete timing. You only have 90 seconds, countless times you will die with her on 1-2%, many people wiped trying to get it down just perfectly.

    Even with patch, whats the big deal? People will figure out the safe spots and the quickest classes and we back to square one, waste of time lol. Infact it would be faster if you just did legit runs than this because at least you can pretty much garauntee a win, where as this you cant. couple resists = instant loss, couple incorrect combo timings instant loss. etc

    Ah well, in the end it is a strategy, and we will then move onto the next stacking class quick kill strategy.

    Nothing changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Wish it was as easy as it sounds.

    You need strict gear, people who don't suck, and concrete timing.

    couple resists = instant loss, couple incorrect combo timings instant loss. etc
    I've watched LS's hardcore BLM burn farm Garuda and never lose for hours on end. There's probably some big thing you're missing in your burn execution. Nevertheless, "tank and spank with an enrage timer" is still all it is. This isn't a strategy to beat the fight, it's a strategy to skip the fight and just get the loot. The real fight is everything after aerial blast and I can't imagine someone seriously denying that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    I've watched LS's hardcore BLM burn farm Garuda and never lose for hours on end. There's probably some big thing you're missing in your burn execution. Nevertheless, "tank and spank with an enrage timer" is still all it is. This isn't a strategy to beat the fight, it's a strategy to skip the fight and just get the loot. The real fight is everything after aerial blast and I can't imagine someone seriously denying that point.
    I feel we will just get into one of those "interweb arguements" that never ends, so opinions be opinions.

    I prefer this method, and sadly will see it gone as i find it much more fun than the cluster fuck that is the "normal strategy".
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Nothing changes.
    Yeah, nothing changes like how The Dreamers quests are required to complete my tracker even though they are not availble. They stare me in the eye everytime I update my pad...and it NEVER CHANGES.

    Oh, you meant this...umm, okay. My thoughts are as follows:

    1. Moogle had an exploit. Death wins. Remember? Some people used them, some called them things, some wanted the drops.

    2. Cheating at an MMO is like cheating at solitare.

    3. Its my birthday and im in Vegas and I just woke up from like 4 hours sleep from an all night crazed zerg on life. As far as I can tell, I am about 2k up and I was going to logon game on my laptop while we wait for room service, but I just can't be bothered.

    4. Being just contaminates the void.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Wish it was as easy as it sounds.

    You need strict gear, people who don't suck, and concrete timing. You only have 90 seconds, countless times you will die with her on 1-2%, many people wiped trying to get it down just perfectly.

    Even with patch, whats the big deal? People will figure out the safe spots and the quickest classes and we back to square one, waste of time lol. Infact it would be faster if you just did legit runs than this because at least you can pretty much garauntee a win, where as this you cant. couple resists = instant loss, couple incorrect combo timings instant loss. etc

    Ah well, in the end it is a strategy, and we will then move onto the next stacking class quick kill strategy.

    Nothing changes.
    The longer the fight goes, the higher your chances are of wiping due to the proportionately higher performance requirements in reacting properly and quickly to the transitions. I don't care about people using a BLMburn to kill before Aerial Blast, but it's abundantly clear how much easier it is compared to dealing with what happens after Aerial Blast -- claiming otherwise is what bears correction. The initial development and video of the strategy was an interesting proof-of-concept. Beyond that, there's nothing interesting about people using the strategy to farm more efficiently before it gets fixed.

    The gear requirement is fairly loose; this has already been proven by groups with AF, single melds, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    It's tank and spank with an enrage timer. Sorry if that doesn't impress me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    I've watched LS's hardcore BLM burn farm Garuda and never lose for hours on end. There's probably some big thing you're missing in your burn execution. Nevertheless, "tank and spank with an enrage timer" is still all it is. This isn't a strategy to beat the fight, it's a strategy to skip the fight and just get the loot. The real fight is everything after aerial blast and I can't imagine someone seriously denying that point.
    I'm with Raikki on this one. I'm far more impressed by Kaeko's Mistress BLMburn (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Burn-Strategy). The theory and effort put into that strategy paid dividends for me personally and my performance when playing BLM.
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    Last edited by carraway; 05-02-2012 at 11:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carraway View Post
    I'm with Raikki on this one. I'm far more impressed by Kaeko's Mistress BLMburn (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Burn-Strategy). The theory and effort put into that strategy paid dividends for me personally and my performance when playing BLM.
    It is easier to burn Miser then Garuda. You can get away with a lot more mistakes while burning miser. Sometimes the mage never has to move at all. The only difference is it takes longer to get to miser and 99% of the time you are getting useless drops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatdawg View Post
    Even mage burning takes some coordination and skill. It is still not zone in and auto win.

    Once that is patched, people will move on to the next easiest way to kill her.

    The only major significance of this fight is that you get a reward every time. Unlike Ifrit and Moogle where you don't know how many kills it will take until you are 7/7 at least with Garuda you know it will be no more then 280 kills.
    20*7 does not equal 280 kills...... 20*7=140 kills ~.~ lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    20*7 does not equal 280 kills...... 20*7=140 kills ~.~ lol
    Yep, 2 totems per kill.

    Good thing your on the forums 24/7 to correct people.
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