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    Ruri Valeth
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Went 1/35, then baught 2. Still have about 32 headdresses so by the end of the week should be 7/7. Non-Blm burn btw.
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    Tymora Estrellauta
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    They don't have to ban anyone. Disappearing Garuda weapons is a decent enough punishment.
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    This thread turned into lol quickly.
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    Kaeko Leta
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    This goes back to a very old circular argument ever-present in XI.

    Nothing in the world is black and white, and the same holds true for the MMO world as well. People have varied opinions; however, the group who decides whether something interesting is an example of exploitation vs. smart optimization is ultimately SE and SE alone. We as the XI/XIV community argue on the forums, but we all have varied opinions. The only one that matters is SE's b/c they are in charge of game balance. If they deemed this BLM burn idea legit, a lot of people would be frustrated, but it would be legit. Best example I can think of for this is Utsusemi tanking in XI. Far more broken than half the stuff they deemed exploit in XI but they let it be and it became common / required strategy.

    To the minority of the community that actually pushes and comes up with these crazy min-max ideas like the BLM burn Garuda idea, it's not about some raging philosophical argument about game balance and exploits - it's simply about min-maxing and pushing the current mechanics of the game. We do, then let SE decide if this is exemplary strategy vs. an exploit needing a patch. It's a very necessary aspect of the community because SE cannot be 100% in catching these in testing. They rely on players to push the boundaries, then they react accordingly to preserve game balance.

    Now to play devil's advocate here. The real interesting philosophical discussion here should not be if this Garuda burn is an 'exploit' or not, but instead how would you feel if Legacy had done this, hidden it and farmed the crap out of it at their leisure for 3 months, then told everyone? Now that's an interesting discussion. Spoken like a true XI LM-17 I guess.
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    Dancing Mad (Excalibur Server)

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    Majidah Sihaam
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    Archer Lv 50
    Can we make this thread about how the OP has his exp bar and clock on the lower right?
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    Crimzon Sol
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Had our first LS member get to 7/7 weapons last night. Most people have (or at least have enough headdresses) to get to 3-4 weapons now as well. We have never even attempted this fight using a BLM burn setup.

    I don't understand how 90% of the community would choose to not participate in probably the most balanced and challenging fight that SE has implemented to date.

    While frustrating at times to get all the mechanics of the different phases down (like any fight I suppose), the feeling that you get when you finally succeed is one of the reasons that make MMOs fun to play.

    If there was a treasure chest in the cave where you enter the Garuda fight and you could either fight Garuda to try and earn the weapons or simply click the chest, would all these shells just be skipping the fight altogether? Do gamers not enjoy the challenge of overcoming anything anymore or is it really just about a virtual piece of gear?
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    It is a little sad 3 of you in the LS had to come onto here and attack me lol, bring some more its a little fun because i can picture the LS chat and the rage.
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    Aqua Resonare
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    It is a little sad 3 of you in the LS had to come onto here and attack me lol, bring some more its a little fun because i can picture the LS chat and the rage.
    Oh, we don't troll on forum when we play, course we'd spend time play instead. we only trolling because we stuck at work and can't play.

    Have to be entertained while sit through all these meetings.
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    Merlwyb is my wife~


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    Ashley Zeibel
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    Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls: The Thread.

    Come on guys, just let it die.
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    Roranora Nonanora
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    Lets see the 7/7 Ifrit 7/7 Moogle!
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